senna_trem Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 With the summer Olympics just gone I am sorry I did not get a chance to see any of the martial arts competitions. What divisions are there? What styles usually dominate? Are there harder competitions (more eliminations) for men because there are more men competing? What nationalities usally compete? How physical does it get? Also, what sports channels televises karate competitions regularly? "I think therefore I am" Rene Descartes
Sam Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 its all WTF style and it can get really physical especially [as i think is now true] since kicking to the head it legal.
tufrthanu Posted January 5, 2005 Posted January 5, 2005 There are 6 combat sports in the olympics they are: Boxing Judo Greco-Roman Wrestling Freestyle Wrestling Taekwondo Fencing The competition is very fierce...in taekwondo there is kicking to the head and it is full contact but there are no punches to the head and not much defense. Boxing and the 2 wrestling categories have alot of different weightclasses. Judo and Taekwondo only have four I beleive: Fly, Feather, Middle and Heavy...I think. I'm not sure that fencing has any weight classes however there are 3 sword classes: Foil, Epee and Sabre from least to most difficult in that order. As to the nations that dominate: in the martial arts it is usually the asian countries...in boxing it tends to be the US, eastern europe and cuba. In wrestling it tends to be eastern europe, the us and the middle east. In fencing it tends to be western europe. As far as who gets in the process is quite complicated for like the taekwondo...you have to win so many matches and if its against a champion you have to win more...stuff like that. The only regular tv channel that broadcasts karate regularly is ESPN 2. They broadcast the creative forms competitions form ISKA and also the american K-1 competitions...big whoop...but thats what we get. Long Live the Fighters!
senna_trem Posted January 5, 2005 Author Posted January 5, 2005 I don't know much about MAs, what would be the difference between a Judo Olympic match and a Tae Kwan Do Olympic match? Why don't they have karate in there? "I think therefore I am" Rene Descartes
Straight Blast Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 Taekwondo and Judo are two waaaaayyyyyy different styles.First off TKD is a striking art,and Judo is a grappling art,both are very sport oriented,unlike karate which is more on self defense rather than sport.
tufrthanu Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 Well that last statement is untrue to say the least. As to the difference between the Judo and Taekwondo in the olympics, judo doesnt have any strikes I dont believe...and they are limited on what kind of throws they can do...no neck breakers or anything like that...in judo it is possible to win the match just by scoring 1 point. It is set up so that each difficulty level of throw gets either 1/4, 1/2 or 1 point. First person to 1 point wins. So you could win off of one throw. In the TKD you get 1 point for a kick or punch to the body, 2 points for a kick to the head and I think you can also get 3 points if the kick to the head is aerial. TKD has rounds and the winner must either be ahead on points or knock the opponent out. At the end of the rounds they also administer penalties from the round...such as delaying and what not...so you might start out with having scored 10 points but lose 3.5 of them for penalties. Karate as an olympic event has been suggested before...I don't know why its not in...but they only have room for so many sports and if you can't get approval it doesnt go in. I know China will be doing a wushu demo game for the 2008 olympics in Beijing and they will be hoping to get that in in the future. Personally...I think they should just drop the TKD, Karate, Kung Fu...and just go for some sort of generalized kickboxing. Long Live the Fighters!
Kicks Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 WTF Olympic rules are: 1. One point for a kick or punch to the body 2. Two points for a kick to the face 3. Extra point if downed fighter requires a count It is essential that blows are delivered to the scoring area with both accuracy and power. A valid point is only scored by accurate and powerful contact with the central portion of the striking surface of an authorized implement to a scoring area. Penalties are given for the following: Half Point Penalties (Kyong-go) Interference with the progress of the match: 1. Crossing the boundary line 2. Intentionally falling down 3. Evading by turning the back to the opponent Undesirable Acts: 1. Grabbing the opponent 2. Holding the opponent 3. Touching the opponent with the hand or trunk excessively 4. Pretending injury 5. Butting or attacking with the knee 6. Attacking the groin 7. Stamping or kicking any part of the leg or foot 8. Hitting opponents face with hand or fist 9. Interrupting the progress of the match (contestant or coach) 10. Avoiding the match Full Point Penalties (Gam-Jeom) Interference with the progress of the match: 1. Throwing down the opponent by grappling the opponents foot in the air with arm or by pushing the opponent with hand 2. Intentionally attacking the fallen opponent after declaration of Kal-yeo 3. Intentionally attacking opponents face severely with fist/hand Undesirable acts: 1. Violent remarks or behaviour by contestant or coach The match is organised round three, three-minute rounds with 60 seconds break between each round. The match is played on an 8m x 8m contest area enclosed by a 12m x 12m competition area line. Body protection is worn on the head, body, groin, teeth (optional), forearms and shins and instep. No gloves or full 'boot' type footgear. The idea is to score as many points as possible with kicks by striking to the front and sides of the trunk and front of the face. Points scored by punching are to the person's trunk only. when you create the world's largest trailer park, you're going to have tornadoes
Straight Blast Posted January 6, 2005 Posted January 6, 2005 Well that last statement is untrue to say the least. .ah,i wouldnt know to much about judo...and i guess my thought on karat was wrong,never knew it was suggested.
senna_trem Posted January 7, 2005 Author Posted January 7, 2005 From what you guys have told me it sounds like both of these varieties (judo and taekwando) seem very biased and I do agree with making it a general kickboxing event with middle of the line rules. "I think therefore I am" Rene Descartes
tufrthanu Posted January 7, 2005 Posted January 7, 2005 Well obviously the Judo guys would be at a disadvantage in a striking competition, but perhaps we could gather the martial artists into these categories: Taekwondo, Karate, Kung Fu ~ Full Contact Kickboxing Judo, Aikido, Jujitsu, Hapkido ~ Generalized Grappling The only sport that I think could really combine the two categories would be some sort of San Shou. The problem with this that I see is I'm not sure how you would make it safe enough for the amateur competitors. Long Live the Fighters!
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