Sticking hands - for WC only?

[Nick_UKWC]

He wasn't being defensive he was being polite as you know

 

Other than that I do agree with DM on the whole. To learn WC Chi Sau you would have to learn all about at least the 3 things he mentioned. When they are used, how they flow, the practice to use them well. As he he say's, you're half way in to the Sui Nim Tao by then.

 

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Btw I started it after about a year of training.

[Hudson]

Heh, better safe then sorry.

 

Thanks for all the replies - I'm going to conclude that chi-sau is a WC idea and should stay within WC while sticking hands is found throughout various systems and is a more broad concept depending on stylistic differences and applications.

[Drunken Monkey]

...not quite.

 

you can do a sort of chi sau, only it probably won't be the same as how a wing chun guy does it.

 

depending on your style, you will have a way and a reason for doing things.

 

i mentioned silat drills being taught side by side with chi sau in jkd.

 

in the case of the silat drills, it is less elbow sense and more hard contact/reaction/spacial drill.

 

(tap tap tap)

 

BUT

 

it has a similar form and trains a similar (or their equivilant) thing.

 

take the case of tai chi's push hands.

 

it doesn't work in the same way as chi sau, nor does it work the same elements

 

BUT

 

the result is the same.

 

what you've got to do, is look at the simple drills from your style and see where it is that you read to do moves (what you react to)

 

i.e do you feel forward movement/pressure or do you directly make the gap first or whatever.

 

then just keep repeating the drills for both sides until your are 100(ish) % sure of how/why it works.

 

then feed in another type of move and work this into the drill.

 

keep doing this and soon you will have a flow drill of maybe 6/7 movements that can flow into each other.

 

it won't be 'chi sau' but it would be a sensitivity/flow drill for your style.