TKDGirl Posted January 18, 2002 Posted January 18, 2002 I am a Purple Belt in the Jhoon Rhee system of Tae Kwon Do. Recently I had a discussion with a couple of my friends that practice Aikido, Hapkido, and other Arts. They claim TKD is not as effective because it does not focus on using the opponents energy in order to defeat him/her but that we try to kick to high, and jump too much! . Is that so?..What do you guys think? AJAssitant Instructor TKDPurple Belt
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KickChick Posted January 18, 2002 Posted January 18, 2002 Hosinsul is one of the four principles of (WTF)TKD. Although TKD is a "self defense" martial art, it focuses on high, spinning kicks which are not very suitable for real life (street) application. Hosinsul is a mixture of all kinds of techniques, including grappling/locks as well as depending against armed attackers etc. I am presently trying to find this in my area in order to train since ITF TKD does not offer this at our school. There are two sorts of self-defense (this is a BIG generalization): The hard or linear way and the soft or circular way. In the linear form one uses arms and legs to block a strike of the opponent. The advantage is that there is a direct counter-threat, which results in pain for the opponent. The disadvantage is that this method requires a lot of power and it may look extremely violent for outsiders. The circular form has a different view. Here you use the power and speed of the opponent to neutralise him/her using circular movements. The advantage is that you can neutralize your opponent without hurting him and that no strength is required. The disadvantage is that it takes a lot of skill and practice to come to the necessary level. You will most likely use a combination of both. I think if you read through some of the posts here on the forum... the majority does agree on crosstraining within the arts. Oh and welcome to KarateForums! _________________ ITF/TKD Black Belt (1st dan)/Fitness Kickboxing Instructor (KarateForums Sensei) [ This Message was edited by: KickChick on 2002-01-18 11:25 ]
Joecooke007 Posted January 18, 2002 Posted January 18, 2002 First of all, (not to sound mean or anything) can this thread be moved to the Ganeral martial arts and karate disscusion. I feel that more people would benifit from it being there. Now, TKD is a very linear sport. the strikes are very effective. The thing is you can only use spinning kicks from a longer range. Once you are fighting very closely kicks are very easy to cut off at the source. This Hosinsul that KickChick described sounded like the perfect variation. If you are too close to get off kicks you might need to grapple. Boards don't hit back. -Bruce Lee
TKDGirl Posted January 18, 2002 Author Posted January 18, 2002 Thank you KickChick!. I am going to look into this Hosinsul. I would love to combine another martial art with TKD. I like it too much to give it up, and think that by combining it with another art I would become a better rounded individual in the Martial Arts. AJAssitant Instructor TKDPurple Belt
TKD_McGee Posted January 18, 2002 Posted January 18, 2002 Grappling/Hapkido would be a great combo.. I agree that WTF style > ITF TKD GIRL HUBBA HUBBA! :brow: Do unto others, as they done to you.
SaiFightsMS Posted January 18, 2002 Posted January 18, 2002 Intelligent discussion of the pros and cons of different types of martial arts, such as happen here, have probably gone on for ages. I am thinking though; that we are now more willing to see things we can learn and should learn than in the past when it was - my system is best end of discussion.
bustr Posted January 18, 2002 Posted January 18, 2002 TKDGirl Your friends are partially correct. TKD is a bad choice for self-defense. However, hapkido and aikido don't exactly have a fearsome reputation either. That's not to say that they are a lousy choice for SD. They may be good styles to learn. I really don't know. That said I'd recommend looking for an MMA, Silat or Jeet Kune Do school. Even if you have to travel one or two weekends a month for training in another city you will benefit more from that type of training. I did a search on google and came up with a few links in Miami: http://www.twindragonsmartialarts.com/kuntao_family.htm http://www.fightzone.com/ You should also check out: http://www.taijiworld.com/download/Free_books.htm Erle Montaigue has done the most research in the area of psychological conditioning and always answers his email. [ This Message was edited by: bustr on 2002-01-18 16:56 ]
thaiboxerken Posted January 19, 2002 Posted January 19, 2002 Bustr is correct, but he left out Kali/escrima and Muay Thai. Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts.
TKD_McGee Posted January 20, 2002 Posted January 20, 2002 Bad Choice? Ill show u a bad choice when i do a spinning kick to your head. Do unto others, as they done to you.
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