STR33T GUY Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 I have been attacked by dogs twice, both times while delivering newspapers as a boy. The first time, the dog bit me on the shoulder ripping the sleeve off my coat. The dog then ran away with my sleeve. The second time the dog bit me in the face. Its top front teeth hit me on the bridge of my nose and the front bottom teeth got me in the throat. My whole face was in the dog’s mouth. The dog then let go and we stared at each other for awhile and then I walked slowly away. The dog wandered off. Both times the attacks were very sudden and caught me by surprise. If it happens again I’m going to jump on the dog’s back and use a RNC. I have used the RNC on my own dogs so I know that it works on dogs. I think striking at a dog isn’t that good of an idea. Dogs are very fast and you might just stick your hand into its mouth instead. A knee to the throat just as it lunges toward you is probably the best strike to use. A minute of experience on the street is worth a year of training in the dojo.If you can’t sprawl and brawl, you can’t street fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinnieDaChin Posted December 31, 2004 Share Posted December 31, 2004 dogs arent like people at all- they attack with only their mouths, and thats also where theyre most vulnerable. its very easy to outmanuever almost any dog, because we move side to side much more than they do. kick it in the snout as much as you have to- its a lot like our own noses. ribs can make a good target, but just little kicks like you were kickign a guys shin is all you oughta dog. if you can hit one right over the bridge of its nose you can make one pass out. still though, best to just get the hell away. dont want to enrage it even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Goku the monkeyking Posted January 1, 2005 Share Posted January 1, 2005 me and some of the other people in my family have had this problem growing up and there are 4 ways to get out of this situation. 1) if it's starts to run at you put jaw down over your throat to protect it, many dogs like to attack at the throat. then as it runs to wait to it gets close enough to you then use a jumping front kick on it in the jaw to nock it down I know you try not to hurt them but some times it the only way. 2) If you see it coming at you RUN LIKE HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! get on a bike if you have one near you, or clime a tree if one is near and stay there untill it leeves, or if it won't leeve try a spider man and hop tree to tree. 3) if it bites you then do what my grandma says and bite it back, it may leeve a funny taste in your mouth but he will leeve. 4) grab the most huge object you can find and smash it upside his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman2 Posted January 12, 2005 Share Posted January 12, 2005 one time me and my friends were just sitting against this fence and this german shepred ran up and started biteing on of my friends on his hands and arms. so i just started punching it in the face and it ran away. if a dog ever attacks you just hit it in the nose really hardwith the force of your blow going up the bridge of its nose into its head dogs have a weak bone on the top of thier muzzel you can break it and its spear shaped with the point going towards its brain. so when you break the bone it stabs into thier brain killing the dog ive never done this because ive never had to but i would if i was bieng attacked my a dog and it was my only way to escapei like dogs tho i used to have a big dober man and wrestle with it . thats probly why im not affarid of fighting dogs. most ppl * their pants when dogs come at them tho . its wierd because today in class i was reading this article about these 2 dogs that almost killed three people in a matter of minutes and had attacked a child on a previos occasion and someone saw it happend and beat the dogs with an extension cord and saved the people. too sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzychicano Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 LOL thnx for this post I haven't laughed so hard in a long time LOL What the superior man seeks is in himself; what the small man seeks is in others. - Confucius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I'm shaking my head here in disbelief and amazement here at the replies. BAD IDEAS: 1. Odds are you CAN'T out manuever a dog. They are faster than you are...period. 2. Kicking it may be a good idea, but a dog is FAST and might very well grab yoru foot or leg. At that point, he will have you on the ground and then you are in deep doo-doo. 3. Running from a dog, or ANY other attacking animal, triggers a natural instinct in it to give chase. You can NOT out run a dog unless you're a world class sprinter, and the dog is a tiny little one. 4. Putting your jaw down to protect your throat won't work either, as the dog will grab your neck and rip it apart. Your throat is not your only vulerable part of your neck. 5. Using a jumping kick at a dog has a poor chance of making contact. A dog is fast remember, and can move out of the way faster than you can jump at it. 6. Climbing a tree is good if you can do it while he's gnawing on your leg. 7. Biting a dog? Oh come on...Grannie was just pulling your leg I think. Do you think you can bite harder than another dog can? Do you think that a dog would stop biting you just because you bit him back? 8. Like a human, there is no direct path between the nose/cartilage and the brain. Striking it on the nose thinking you will drive bone fragments into its brain is pure fiction...unless of course you are using a jack hammer. OK, with that said, there are a few main points to consider when fighting a dog. And I'm talking a BIG dog here, like a German Sheppard or Doberman for instance. First of all...and this is important...try as hard as you can to stay on your feet! If you have to grab a tree, pole, car..whatever to hold yourself up..stay on your feet if you can! If the dog means to kill you, then he wants your throat, or your groin. Staying on your feet makes your head higher and harder for them to get at. As for the groin...well, keep your legs together if you can. During the attack...YELL! yell "NO>>>DOWN>>>STOP>>>BAD DOG because possibly the dog will respond to those words because most dogs are trained to back off to those words since they were a pup. Plus, it draws attention to you from other people that might be able to help you. If you see a dog coming at you with the attitude of attack, place your forearm out in front of you parallel to the ground. What you're doing is offering it something to grab...your arm. This is better than your throat or groin...right? I think so. If you have time, wrap a coat or anything you can around that arm to help protect it. When the dog grabs your arm, smash your knucks or palm as hard as you can against its nose. No, not trying to ram bone into its brain but rather it is a dogs most sensative part of its body. They won't hold on for long if they are getting hurt. Don't forget to YELL while doing this. If the dog is grabbing your forearm and shaking its head and you're using your free hand to help support yourself, use your knees to knee it it the ribs/torso as hard as you can. You can also swing the dog arounbd against something...like a pole, fence, car, your best friend, whatever to help break its grip on you and possibly injure it to the point it stops attacking you. Now, worst case scenerio...if you fall down and are on the dogs level, again, offer your forearm to the dog instead of your neck/face or groin. Try as hard as you can to regain your feet if possible, but if you can't..kick with both feet, YELL, and if the dog has a collar, try to grab that if you can and pull it back from your throat. Smash your fist, kuckles, whatever against the dogs nose....while YELLING! Some people say they can wrestle a dog into submission...I doubt it. Sure, maybe you can with your family pet...but an enraged dog bent on ripping your throat out? I doubt it and I'd really like to see somebody try that against a doberman. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman2 Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 sacrificeing your arm? no thanks homie g . http://www.amonline.net.au/mammals/images/gallery/400/dog_skull_jaw_09.jpg thers a pic of a dog skull loke at the end of the nose and see how there is a spear shaped bone with a crack down the middle this is the bone that is dislodged and goes straight into thier brain my father and grandfather were farmers before they came to canada its a comman move used to take out dogs. too sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I see the spear shaped bone you're referring to, but the brain sits about 3-4" behind that and is protected completely by bone itself. If this was a "common way to take out dogs", don't you think it would be common knowledge? Just like a human nose...or similar anyway, you can break the bone/cartilage of course, but sending splinters to the brain...which is totally encased in a protective shell of bone...nope, not gonna happen cowboy (my retort to being called homie). My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 Yeah... unless you smack this dogs nose at the correct degree with tremendous force (said Jackhammer), theres no way you can drive a bone into his brain. That's like uppercutting a human jawbone into the brain. The game of chess is much like a swordfight; you must think before you move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM618 Posted January 14, 2005 Share Posted January 14, 2005 I’d go for the forearm sacrifice. Based on my experience playing with large dogs; Dobermans, Labradors, and Sheppards, the farther into the jaw you force your forearm, the less force they can apply. Dogs use their canines (the long front teeth) to pierce and tear skin and flesh; those are the teeth that do the most damage. The back teeth, much like human teeth are use for ‘grinding’. (I know that a large dog could take a finger off if they got it in the back of their jaw, but I’m talking about forcing it open.) Pulling away from a bite allows the dog to work with the canines and do damage. Also, if you pull away, and the dog thinks it’s losing its position, they will let go and lunge or snap at you again. If the forearm is forced into the dog’s mouth and kind of jams it in an open position, they can’t do as much damage as if they were snapping or tearing at you. One ‘technique’ I used to use with my Doberman was to offer my left arm, and as she would lunge forward to take it I would meet the attack and force my forearm back into her jaw. Then with my right hand, grab the back of her head. Holding her by the back of her head allowed me to keep my forearm ‘wedged’ in her jaw, not allowing her to let go and attack again or bite down with much force. Granted we were playing and she wasn’t trying to kill me but even with a bare arm, the damage was minimal. (No flames please, I never abused my dog, god rest her soul. She loved to play and would sometimes get worked up, and in the end start playing a little rough – this would always calm her down. Whenever I did this, the ‘expression’ on her face was priceless. ‘Oh s***, no way to retreat, no way to attack.) Imagine this happening on the street; you have a dog in a ‘headlock’ of sorts. It can’t bite you anymore. I imagine you could kick it or knee it, or as gruesome as it sounds, if you really felt your life was in danger, put out one of its eyes with your thumb. Also, if you could get the dog’s mouth shut, and keep it shut, perhaps with a belt or jacket, it would no longer pose a threat. The muscles for opening the mouth are weak compared to the ones for closing it. So if you could get a hold of it by the snout and keep its mouth shut… (I watched an episode of crocodile hunter a while back and the guy said once he had the mouth shut the croc was ‘harmless’ and could be tied off with household twine.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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