pers Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 As soon as I know that attack is imminent I will attack first ,or work out a favourable position to opponent and let him initiate ! but only after all other ways of avoiding physical conflict have been exhuasted. never give up ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aefibird Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 I think I'd attack first if I knew that the other person was about to attack. If the situation was uncertain and there wasn't a 100% chance that the other person was going to attack first then I'd prefer to try and calm the situation down. Or, I'd wait and see what the attacker was going to do and use my defensive training to defend against an attack. However, it's hard to know what you'd do unless you actually found yourself in a situation - every incident will be different. "Was it really worth it? Only time and death may ever tell..." The Beautiful South - The Rose of My CologneSheffield Steelers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted December 27, 2004 Share Posted December 27, 2004 If it were a real life situation, where my enemy had a knife, I would kick it out of his hand, drop my kicking leg down and while i was doing that I would do a kind of jumping front kick. That would immobilize them for a bit, thus giving me a chance to run. Shawn...you've seen WAY to many episodes of KungFu Theater I think. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.A.L Posted December 28, 2004 Author Share Posted December 28, 2004 again this is not about sparring , no weapons no life/death situation ,not about "no first attack in karate", imagine you are on a beach and somehow get involove in a fight ,very simple . thanks for the answers ,as i could see most of you will attack first, but still i feel confident to accept an attack , one thing we may wanna discuse is the chance for the attacker and defender? when you attackt you are ahead as far as time but you are also more open . the only situation that i may attack first is that my opponent shows some moves and i realize he is trained, other wise i love it if someone intiates a jumping front kick as someone sugested here, or someone throw a wide street punch so my strategy is still accepting a first attack. how do you think your MA affecting this? for example I really don't think so that a Thai boxer wait ,there is no wait in Muai Thai , from other hand a Aikido guy most likely will wait for the attack, what do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cross Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 again this is not about sparring , no weapons no life/death situation ,not about "no first attack in karate", I was using that as an example of how style effects your mentality, which was part of your question.when you attackt you are ahead as far as time but you are also more open. It depends if your attack is effective or not as to weather your open. If you hit someone in the face you may well leave your self open but its going to be hard for them to capitalise on that opening while your fist is in their face.the only situation that i may attack first is that my opponent shows some moves and i realize he is trained What type of "moves" are you talking about here? Maybe assuming a fighting stance, but doing some moves 5 metres away from your and them assuming a pose- not going to happen. If someone is set on attacking you then there usually wont be a great deal of time for you to work out weather of not they have any previous training. In the time you use to workout they have formal training you could have attacked them or escaped already. And if you do work out they have training, its probably going to be to late to launch your pre-emptive strike anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.A.L Posted December 28, 2004 Author Share Posted December 28, 2004 thanks for sharing your ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hengest Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 i could see most of you will attack first, but still i feel confident to accept an attack I don't think it's really about whether or not you have confidence in your defensive skills. It's more about adopting a strategy that is more likely to ensure you walk away from the confrontation. What if I were to wait for the attack but instead of receiving the expected haymaker, I get a Glock pointed at my nose? At times like that you're going to wish you'd hit first and made a break for it. Actual confrontation is a highly variable, unpredictable business and it doesn't pay to wait around and see what happens, cos you might just have waited a little too long... Hengest"A coward believes he will ever live if he keep him safe from strife: but old age leaves him not long in peace though spears may spare his life." - Hávamál, Saying 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pers Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 , but still i feel confident to accept an attack , when you attackt you are ahead as far as time but you are also more open . the only situation that i may attack first is that my opponent shows some moves and i realize he is trained, ? Well it is good to be confident but being aware and vigilant and quick decision is also vital ,some times you don't get the second chance and after all peaceful efforts failed the ultimate skill is the ability to influence your opponent to react to your moves in the way you want thus presenting you with the opening to beat him ! now don't get me wrong ! I don't claim to have this ability but I would like to ! never give up ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khan Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 I'm in secondary school, so people usually push you if they intend to fight. By that time they've broken the physical contact barrier that stops you from going to the head teacher. If they're just saying stuff, (that isn't racist, or offensive eg. your mum is in hospital and they make fun) then you get in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.A.L Posted December 29, 2004 Author Share Posted December 29, 2004 Pers, you are right. hopefully we all get there one day. what i like to say is , a defensive strategy based on setting traps/counter strike has nothing less than offensive strategy based on initiating an attack. of course karate is not defensive as Aikido , we learn to initiate too but still IMHO traditional okinwan karate is in favour of defensive strategy. somebody kicks you if you are a offensive person ,you won't accept the attack so you may wanna dis engage and come back for your turn or you may block hard, dis-engage and come back to attack, a difensive person may accept the attack and move into the kick hard or blend in with kick and go for a lock..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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