Rock-fght Posted December 23, 2004 Posted December 23, 2004 are these benificial to yur skills? are they crappyer than double ended bags? which one would you perfer? I know there for timing and such but the big question is how will it effect my skills compared to a double ended bag? My fists are fire,My arms are brimstone,My legs are steel,My heart is the furnace. Rock--5ft'6 160lbs 15yrs old
STR33T GUY Posted December 23, 2004 Posted December 23, 2004 I prefer the double end ball. A minute of experience on the street is worth a year of training in the dojo.If you can’t sprawl and brawl, you can’t street fight.
SevenStar Posted December 23, 2004 Posted December 23, 2004 yeah, for overall skill development, you'd be better off with a double end.
Shane Posted December 23, 2004 Posted December 23, 2004 I dont really care for either one. A True Martial Arts Instructor is more of a guide than anything, on your way to developing the warrior within yourself!!!!!
delta1 Posted December 23, 2004 Posted December 23, 2004 I have both, and like them for different things. But I'd say the double end bag is more useful. The speed bag is good for developing rythm, flow, timeing and coordination. It is also a good device for developing humility. If you get one, I recomend getting a tape and book on useing it. Ringside has a set called 'The Speed Bag Bible', and I think the KF store carrries some Ringside products. The author not only shows how to use it, and with feet and elbows too, but he has some outstanding tips to set up and maintain the apparatus as well. My double end set up is a little different than any other I've seen. I have a regular cannister shaped bag from Century, which I hang at chest/abdomen level. But it hangs beneath an offset double end ball from Ringside, which is at head level. What this does is give me both head and body targets, and it adds an element of unpredictability. Of course, I can simply unclip either one and have either a regular dbl end bag or an offset bag alone. Doubling them up does dampen them a little. Either way, they are good for working timeing, accuracy, adaptability, and flow. Freedom isn't free!
STR33T GUY Posted December 23, 2004 Posted December 23, 2004 My double end set up is a little different than any other I've seen. I have a regular cannister shaped bag from Century, which I hang at chest/abdomen level. But it hangs beneath an offset double end ball from Ringside, which is at head level. I’ve done the same thing with two double balls but using a canister bag sounds like a neat idea. delta1, how are the dynamics different when using a canister bag and a double end ball together as appose to using two double end balls? A minute of experience on the street is worth a year of training in the dojo.If you can’t sprawl and brawl, you can’t street fight.
delta1 Posted December 24, 2004 Posted December 24, 2004 It seems to dampen the rebound a little, as well as the offset effect. Probably due to a combination of more mass, less chord, and an extra point of articulation. Similar strikes on the double set up don't move it quite like on a solo set up. How does yours work with two double end balls? Are either of them offset? Sometimes with the offset ball you have to be really quick to pick it up in time. Freedom isn't free!
STR33T GUY Posted December 24, 2004 Posted December 24, 2004 Hi delta1 There is no offset on my double-end balls and the two balls behave very much like one ball does. There is some dampening so the rebound is slowed a little but not very much. I actually went back to just one ball and sold the other, I don’t miss it A minute of experience on the street is worth a year of training in the dojo.If you can’t sprawl and brawl, you can’t street fight.
delta1 Posted December 24, 2004 Posted December 24, 2004 I like the option to modify the set up. But then, I'm sort of a nut about improvising training devices! Right now I'm in the middle of another remodeling project in my shop/training area. I'm installing a homemade floor to cieling spring loaded swiveling post dummy with adjustable arms for holding pads. Sometimes I think I spend more time improvising and installing/building equipment than I do working out! But, I enjoy doing both, so it isn't wasted time, and most of the materials are salvaged or scrounged. The things I buy are mostly items that I watched for sales on, or promotions, and a few items from Sakuras' auction board. Freedom isn't free!
STR33T GUY Posted December 24, 2004 Posted December 24, 2004 Right now I'm in the middle of another remodeling project in my shop/training area. I'm installing a homemade floor to cieling spring loaded swiveling post dummy with adjustable arms for holding pads. PLEASE POST PICS! A minute of experience on the street is worth a year of training in the dojo.If you can’t sprawl and brawl, you can’t street fight.
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