Ant Posted December 24, 2004 Author Posted December 24, 2004 Well I humbly take back my statement, I truly sucked last night when performing all kata's I am fairly lucky in that I got to study different arts when I was younger, Ju Jitsu, Judo, Karate and boxing from the age of 9 to 16 Getting back into Karate at 29 was not as hard as it was for the guys just starting out at my age. I stilled sucked Orpington Shotokan Karate Club
June1 Posted December 24, 2004 Posted December 24, 2004 Awwww. I'm sorry to hear that. But don't get discouraged. You can do nothing but learn from this experience. Just work hard, follow our advice here , and your next grading will go much better! Good luck! Kool Kiais: ICE! DIE! KITES! DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGHHHHHH! KIAI!"Know Thyself""Circumstances make me who I am."
Ant Posted December 24, 2004 Author Posted December 24, 2004 I don't get discouraged Just another off day, they are getting fewer as I progress though. Orpington Shotokan Karate Club
1st KYU Posted December 25, 2004 Posted December 25, 2004 we had a little contest at my club for a year to see who could do the most kata...it was not supposed to be just one kata, but thats what i decided to do. i did saifa 1000 times just on my spair time. i still consider myself a novice at the kata. "Cry in the dojo, laugh on the battle field."
pers Posted December 28, 2004 Posted December 28, 2004 depends on the style too. Shotokan is very simple to learn where Goju Ryu is a very deep/profound art. Shotokan uses less techniques and may look less sophisticated but no way it is easy and it emphesises on perfection of the technique which takes a lot of effort .Interpretation of its katas depends on the quality of the organisation and instruction of the individual club .Learning the movements and the sequence of the kata may look simple but mastering it takes a lot of dedication and effort. never give up !
BJJShotoshe Posted December 29, 2004 Posted December 29, 2004 takes me 1 1/2 hrs.to learn hein kata shodan - ShotokanBlue Belt - Jiu-JitsuWhoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care the themself without that law is both. For wounded man shall say to his assailant, if I live I will kill you, If I die you are forgiven-- such is the rule of Honor.
strangepair03 Posted January 1, 2005 Posted January 1, 2005 I know in my style Isshin Ryu we don't have beginner katas...our first kata is seisan, I think it is called hangetsu in Shotokan, it was rought to learn...took about 2 months to get down the movements. I would say I have a good grip of the kata, confortable with the moves and bunkai but still challenges me just as much as our "advanced" kata. While everyone is here, where does hangetsu rank in Shotokan, I heard it was an upper level kata? Thanks A punch should stay like a treasure in the sleeve. It should not be used indiscrimately.Kyan Chotoku Sensei
Gloi Posted January 1, 2005 Posted January 1, 2005 In our Shotokan association we do hangetsu as a first dan kata. I did Seisan on a course with some Goju people last summer though. After hearing that they were basically the same kata I was surprised just how different they were. Some of the sequences were the same but I found it quite difficult to learn the kata in the short time we had , even though I know Hangetsu. You could tell the two kata came from the same origin , but even so there were a lot of differences.
aefibird Posted January 1, 2005 Posted January 1, 2005 I agree with Gloi. I've done the Shotokan version of Hangetsu and the Goju version of Seisan and I found them to be very different from each other - not that that is a bad thing. It's always good IMO to look at other styles and see how they do certain tecniques, kata etc. Learning from other styles can be very helpful and it can improve your technique and skills. "Was it really worth it? Only time and death may ever tell..." The Beautiful South - The Rose of My CologneSheffield Steelers!
pers Posted January 1, 2005 Posted January 1, 2005 Hangetsu is not really a beginners kata ,there are movements and concepts that one need to have had good basic understanding of karate to apreciate this kata. This kata with sochin is one of my favourites . It allowes my mind to experience the correct brething and focusing the energy in a exadurated way to condition itself. Needs to be practiced a lot to gain competency ,but will do wonders for your kime and generally conditions the karateka to omprove their technique and it is a beautiful kata. never give up !
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