Throat bars anyone?

[kickcatcher]

Hello Steetguy,

 

Are you an RBSD guy well versed in Geoff T, Dave Turton etc etc. If so, you will probably see where I'm coming from.

 

But in answer to your specific queries:

At the risk of being a negative ninny, the drawing shows very poor body mechanics for generating power in punches. I suppose the artist isn’t a martial artist, but then the description you gave doesn’t do much for power generating body mechanics either.

It uses boxing body mechanics for the punch. However, because it is a street confrontational situation you can't be standing their in a fighting posture -as Drunken Monkey keenly observes, it is from a 'fence' postion. This compromises body mechanics somewhat but life is a compromise. The other thing is that I've drawn the right shoulder higher than a 'pure' straight right. That has merits and detractors depending on exact circumstances but is nethertheless a valid variation. the arm is not shown fully extended but then since there is an impact, it probably wouldn't fully extend anyhow.

I also fail to see the benefit of having your forearm against their neck while punching the head. I must be missing something, could you explain more?

Maybe you are mate. The forearm assists you in finding and steadying their head. Sure you can just go in with punches but if you steady it you get a relatively static target. The forearm placement also enables you to push them as you hit -this detracts power from your punches relative to if they were coming forward but at the same time makes it difficult for them to get good strikes in -both because of the inhibited shoulder movement and because they are going backwards. If they do start swinging off punches you can take advantage immediately and grapple them down using torgue type takedowns.

One last thing, leading with a right cross from an orthodox stance is risky, unless it’s meant to be a sucker punch. Even if it is a sucker punch, I’d rather use a less risky punch like a left hook. But maybe hooks don’t work well with throat bars. What’s the purpose of the throat bar again?

Yes and no. It is a sucker punch. You're getting in first before he launches ghis atttack. The silly question is designed to occupy their mind whilst you hit them. For a moment they are relatively static so you have a reasonable chance of a KO. A left hook is also a valid option and some people favour that. I also drill a lead uppercut and a right power-slap for pre-emptive strikes.

[kickcatcher]

erronious double post, please delete

[STR33T GUY]

I know Jack squat about RBSD and since Jack left town that leaves me with squat.

 

You drew that! Well I’ll take my foot out of my mouth now. Btw it’s a better drawing than I could ever do.

 

I now see what you’re getting at with the throat bar. I don’t like grappling with one hand as the other hand strikes. I like to be either hitting with both hands or grappling with both hands, this is just my preference.

 

Thanks for replying back and welcome again to the forum.

[kickcatcher]

sorry mate, with the name Str33t guy I just assumed you were into reality-based self-defence.

Well I’ll take my foot out of my mouth now.

betterthan having someone else's foot in there

[Gumbi]

Well, to offer another perspective on that particular thought....

 

If you can elaborate a bit more, it would help- this is what Im assuming you mean:

 

Pushing your forearm against your opponents throat as a means of choking them or holding them.

 

If that is what you mean, then I do not feel this is a particularly good technique. A simple shove of your elbow could allow your opponent to put you in an arm triangle choke, a single leg attempt, or even going for your back as is basically taught in BJJ. That choke attempt is actually very commonly used by people (while fighting on the ground) who are limited in their knowledge of submission.

 

I will agree though that against an untrained person, that may work, but I'd thought I'd point out the shortcomings I saw, since no one else did.