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Obviously your impression of Honor and mine are very different.

 

It sounds to me they think nothing of Honor and in fact just want to beat people.

 

It isnt my impression Im talking about!

 

I have known a few of them, and talked about it with some of them. And they actually think its Honorable.

 

You know some of these guys?! So if you could talk with them before, why not try it now? I've always found that aggressive trouble making types are easily dealt with by NOT being an aggressive trouble making type back to them. Humor usually works well, and self depricating humor works best. It's tough to laugh and fight at the same time. Try making friends not enemies.

 

I was once at a party in a not so bad, but not so good part of town, and there were a few guys (clearly a crew) who I overheard making plans for causing trouble just because they thought (didn't know, just thought) that a friend of mine was being a wise-* in the way he was acting. (Maybe he was, but we were all drunk so you know the scene.) One of them flashed a blade, and then noticed me casually watching them. His buddy turned towards me and asked me if I had a problem. I noticed he was wearing a jacket with a pic of Bruce Lee on the back, and I commented that I had noticed it and liked it. He and they were immediately friendly with me, and seemed to forget their plans for violence. We discussed kung fu movies for a while and then went back to having a good time. The party lasted throughout the night without incident. In my opinion, I defended my friends with my words and attitude without raising a finger, even though they didn't, (and still don't) even know what had taken place.

 

To continue with my analysis of your situation, if they are making rude and insulting comments to you, then they are clearly trying to get a rise out of you so that they have an excuse to beat you. Don't let them get that rise out of you, and don't stoop to their level by making insulting remarks back to them. Just ignore them or try being nice, no matter how rude they are being. You might be surprised at the results. And if your friends judge you by whether or not you will incite and take on 10 opponents in a street fight, then it's time for new friends.

 

If none of this works, and these guys are truly just out for meaningless violence and mayhem, then I suggest you take the advice from previous posts and stay away from them, or travel in groups, get the authorities involved, or carry a gun (even though it might be illegal, it doesn't mean anyone has to know you have it. If these guys are such deliquents, I don't think they are gonna go to the law to turn you in. I doubt that they frequent police stations save when they're being booked with some crime.) Other types of weapons might help, but against a group of 10, even having escrima sticks or nunchucku or the like probably won't scare the group away. A .45 pistol with a 15 shot clip probably will though.

 

Just remember that your first line of defense doesn't have to be a violent or even physical one. Try the peaceful alternatives first, and if that doesn't work, then try avoidance, and if they're still hunting you, then you have to do what you have to do. Good luck! :karate:

Tae Kwon Do - 3rd Dan, Instructor

Brazilian Ju Jitsu - Purple Belt, Level 1 Instructor

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Very large problem there my friend, hmm seem to me if this happens on a regular basis, this butt wupping, then it is probably going to end up in a death, yours, or theirs if you find a weapon and are able to use it. No answers here just keep yer friens close and call up the local skin heads and ask for protection. UH OH did I say that, yes I did I dont like people who hate others because of race or religion but if it is as bad as you say, dont join them, use them, that is if the cops will not give you a hand. Hey who are you going to peotect, your family or the guys wupping yer butt.

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If it is assumed that this is a situation that cannot be avioded then I suggest you prepare yourself for battle appropriately. The teachings of Sun Tzu are really applicable in your "dilemma." Obviously, you cannot beat your enemy by using strength, in contrast you should strategize to out smart your adversary. Personally, I believe that is very possible for a person of high understanding to be victorious against impossible odds. If it is a specific art you seek to solve your problem, then I suggest Ninjitsu. I am being rather general, Ninjitsu is an extremely vast art, search for particular aspects of the art that complement your situation.

 

Taisavaki-jutsu is the art of avoidance, however this won't satisfy your starved ego.

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Wing Chun is awesome for multiple attackers, i've seen my dad take about 6 good sized men comfortably. one had a poked eye, one wiht a broken knee...they all pretty much went to the hospital i think, i was young so i dont remembor, but the main thing about fighting multiple people is that you have to be very mobile. you have to run and fight when your goin up against 10 guys.(however there are stories of how Wing Chun men have taken 12 pple in a locked room) Use your environment, be resourceful. my dad and his friends were telling me about my uncle from iran who used to sneak into soccer stadiums for fun and have about 20 security chasing him down the whole time. he would mess up a few of them then run and sit down to watch the game for a while, then once they found him he would get up and do it again, jumping over walls, gates...then turn around and beat up the few that manage to keep up with him( of course this is the most crowded stadium in the world, and was the largest for its time) i know for a fact its possible to take that many people, you just have be smart and an agile fighter.

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Don't try to predict the outcome of a fight. just let nature take its course.

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Think of yourself and your mates as in a concentration camp. In there with you are a bunch of numbnuts who don't know whati s going on but who you figure hate you.

 

The guards hate you.

 

The numbnuts hate you.

 

You have a need to assert yourself as a man and prove you are not a wuss, that you can do the time and that you can be a man, survive and escape with your family.

 

Who is going to take the heat?

 

Whether it is 'right' for them to feel like that, it is often the way they feel. They get a lot of status from playing this game in a place where status is hard to come by.

 

It is honorable to fight the enemy.

 

It is honorable to help your brother fight the enemy. It is dishonorable not to help him.

 

It also impresses the ladies.

 

Now that we understand them. get a gun and gently teach them the error of their ways. :)

 

Actually, having been thru this myself, Ithink it is a good idea to learn a bit of their language, get at least one friend of that culture to interpret to you how to communicate to them you are not an enemy but if treated as such will take as many as you can with you. No?

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If you REALLY have to fight. . . . . I suggest carrying 2 Whipchains under your coat. The can do MASSIVE damage on multiple opponents, and can easily maim and kill.

 

If you try hard enough, you might even be able to find spiked ones. Now we're talking.

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Whipchains yeh, how about a frag grenade, or better a suicide chicken wearing a bomb belt trained to attack your attacker or, a pack of man eating rats, yeh.

Survivor

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Hahaha.

 

"Watch Rumble in the Bronx "

 

Even though its just a film, I still think theres some realism in that film.

 

So I can probably use something in it. Maybe theres some way you can help me use the adrenaline to benefit me, like in rumble in the bronx.

 

"Actually, having been thru this myself, Ithink it is a good idea to learn a bit of their language, get at least one friend of that culture to interpret to you how to communicate to them you are not an enemy but if treated as such will take as many as you can with you. No?"

 

Sounds logical enough. I do know some things about their culture, but that wont help me anything. If I spoke their language, it would just confuse them, and maybe make me look like a smart *. I do know a few words, but nothing much. Im good at making friends with some of them, But theres still assholes among them. Its not a problem to communicate with them. They do speak danish, many of them pretty good.

 

"There is no real reason why a group of people would attack you everytime you walk down the street unless you give them a reason 2 or have done something to them in the past. So if there is more to this story than your letting on, maybe you need to sort that out with the group of people in question."

 

I didnt say that it would make sense. Im not lying here if thats what you are referring to. And Im not the kind of guy to pic a fight. Infact Im known to be very hard to get to fight.

 

Theres allot of you who has made a point on the usefulness of a gun. You cant be serious about that! Theres no way in the world I would kill a person, unless it was a matter of life and death between me and my closest. And if I do pull out a gun, then I can be sure that either they will stop harassing me, OR acquire guns themselves and make everything worse than they originally was. Both cases will give me trouble. To risky I think.

 

Ninjitsu isnt a style I want to study because of religious reasons. But Im thinking about starting Capoiera, to be more flexible and be able to use the environment better. And I have kung fu for fighting close quarters.

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