wing chun KI

[was_cool100]

i just stared wing chun i love it i mean i have done kick boxing, wreastling, judo, and they just don't even come close to this style

 

- any way the one thing i don't get is the KI thing maybe its cuz im a person from the west but it just seems a little out there

 

- do any of u know any good ways to foucs your KI or use it

[Nick_UKWC]

Glad you're enjoying your Wing Chun, I also tried a number of MA's before this and find WC by far the most rewarding.

 

If you've just started then frankly I wouldn't worry about Ki just yet. Focus on perfecting your first form and absorbing as much from your lessons as you can.

 

I'm not sure if I subscribe to some peoples descriptions of Ki, as a physical manifestation for instance. I tend to think of it as the difference between a 'good' performance and a 'great' performance. I'm not going to dispute that you can feel the difference when you do something that well, I guess that feeling is what some people would call being 'in the zone' but I think getting to that stage and then maintaining it to be called on at all times is more a case of hard work and diligence than far eastern mystical energy.

 

As ever, just my 2p, no offence to anyone or their differing beliefs.

[Socratic_Sifu]

Ki has, in some instances been built up to be some magical energy that allows the MA proponent to leap over tall buildings in a single bound, etc. but quite simply put, as an old tai chi (taiji?) master once told me--ki is simply bio-energy.

To put it in a more westernly way--it is the ability to utilize kinectic transfer of energy without any, or a great deal of movement for purposes of thwarting an adversary or conversly, in a way to effect or flip on like a switch, the body's already present ability to heal.

If you really want an understanding of ki try some anatomy & physiology books concerning the central nervous system or books on meridian therapy. these will give an example of what it is but not necessarily how to use it.

Have fun with your WC and pay close attention to the siu lum tao--it is a little dull,atleast in the sense that it is not a flashy form but, the whole of the system relies heavily upon the foundations it lays.

[stonecrusher69]

any way the one thing i don't get is the KI thing maybe its cuz im a person from the west but it just seems a little out there

I would not worry of think about KI at this point it will just confuse you and slow down the learning process.The system is very simple and straight forward nothing mystical..If you master SLT your WC will be very good.At that point then you can start thinking about KI..By the way since your studing a chinese art you should call it Chi(Qi) not Ki which is Japanese.

[giang_hu]

Even a practitioner of 10 years will not fully understand how to use chi.

[stonecrusher69]

Even a practitioner of 10 years will not fully understand how to use chi.

Tell me about it..I've been doing WC for 20yrs I'm only now starting to understand it.

[giang_hu]

20 years! Wow. Who is your sifu?

[beAns]

20 years! Wow. Who is your sifu?

haha that's funny

I'm pretty new to Wing chun too!

It's very different from the old styles I learned in Chinese kung fu.

Since Wing chun is an extremly external type of style, many people I know who use that style often uses another system to develope chi.

Honestly there's no biggy about chi. Chi basicly has to do with everything you do or think. Sleeping, eatting, talking, and breathing all has to do with it. I believe that chi travels through the bones and blood and it's everywhere on the body. I don't believe Wing chun itself has a system of developing chi. To be straight forward Wing chin focus on physical like most external style. Wing chun is known for it's witty hand tricks and both shoulders frontal creativity. Almost everything works well with everything when you apply them logicaly. So go check out some internal chi developing ways(Xin yi) is one of the most direct style you can power up your chi. Try it and cook that up with your Wing chun, Judo, and Kick Boxing. I'm sure at different time it'll all become useful one.

[stonecrusher69]

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20 years! Wow. Who is your sifu?

giang_hu I've had 5 WC sifu's but the one I'm with now taught me the most.He's not well know.He preferrs to keep a low profile.He's a very good teacher and nice guy.His Name is Joe Ng.Developing chi plays a big part in our school.WC is not just an exteral but internal as well.

[Traditional-Fist]

i just stared wing chun i love it i mean i have done kick boxing, wreastling, judo, and they just don't even come close to this style

- any way the one thing i don't get is the KI thing maybe its cuz im a person from the west but it just seems a little out there

- do any of u know any good ways to foucs your KI or use it

To develop chi one must practise chi kung. The Siu lim tao form contains chi kung elements within it. You will not realize it just yet, perhaps, but you will come to appreciate these elements eventually.

Similarly to StoneCrusher, the WC that I practise has a lot of internal elements. Dare I call it an internal school of Wing Chun? Anyway, if your school is internally inclined then your sifu will eventually teach you Chi Kung exercises which you will have to do in the mornings, just after you wake up, and in the evenings just before you go to bed. Diligent practise of these exercises will help you to eventually develop your chi.

Good luck.