Joint Locks

[Gumbi]

I have a few questions for you Gumbi, if you don’t mind?

 

What version of the RNC did you use??

 

As far as I know, theres only 1- just the most basic one you see being used when someone's back is taken in MMA

What type of grip did you use for the body lock?

 

Cant remember every little detail, but I usually use a no thumbs palm grip-fingers arent interlocking (I dont know how else to explain it)

Is the arm drag a favorite of yours for taking the back, or was it a case of what was available?

 

For taking the back? Yeah, I guess armdrag is one of my better moves for getting there. Most moves getting to someones back involve some variation of an arm drag, so I guess its all about whichever you're proficient at and which one you prefer

Is there anything that you would do differently if you had the chance?

 

Taken his wallet when he was unconcious

[STR33T GUY]

Re: RNC, I know of two, this is the better one.

 

http://bjj.org/techniques/jen/tech8a/

 

 

 

Re: Taking the back, my favorite arm drag is the “head-under slide-by”. I know it reads “slide-by” but like Gumbi said it’s a kind of arm drag. Only by the most liberal definition would a whizzer be considered an arm drag though (it’s an over-hook). I really like the whizzer.

 

head-under slide-by (site calls it an arm-drag)

 

http://bjj.org/techniques/barra/rigan/

 

whizzer

 

http://bjj.org/techniques/thetechniques/samboKneebar/

 

 

 

Re: Grip types, I know of four grips, the hook, butterfly, palms-down and the three fingers. I’m sure there’s at least four more that I don’t know about. You’ve got me stumped.

 

Sorry no links.

[Gumbi]

Re: RNC, I know of two, this is the better one.

 

http://bjj.org/techniques/jen/tech8a/

 

Thats the only one I know of- whats the other one you're talking about?

 

 

Re: Grip types, I know of four grips, the hook, butterfly, palms-down and the three fingers. I’m sure there’s at least four more that I don’t know about. You’ve got me stumped.

 

Sorry no links.

 

Its similar to a grip up used in wrestling, since I dont believe you're allowed to interlock your fingers in competition.

[SevenStar]

Re: RNC, I know of two, this is the better one.

 

http://bjj.org/techniques/jen/tech8a/

 

Thats the only one I know of- whats the other one you're talking about?

 

There are two in judo. With the other version , the arm does not wrap around the the crown of the head the hands are interlocked with a monkey (4 finger) grip.

 

http://judoinfo.com/hadaka.jpg

 

it can be either an air or blood choke.

[street fighter]

Hello folks, joint locks in a fighting situation are best applied on the unsupecting or injuried. Soften the person up first then apply, oh yea know what yer doing or you may be the one in a stupid position, most good Hap Ki Do guys and Chin Na practicioners I have trained with know many counters and then counters to the counters. I say why do you need to submit, other words what is your mission to subdo for the police, to just calm a drunk down or whatever, if it is a street attack just break it and run. I have done a fair amount of Chin Na from Wing Chun deflections and when the person is really trying to hit you it is real hard to catch and apply what is so easy and cool when doing give and take. Be careful and dont expose yourself to undo danger unless you are a LEO of some other form of security.

[Master Jules]

Hello folks, joint locks in a fighting situation are best applied on the unsupecting or injuried. Soften the person up first then apply, oh yea know what yer doing or you may be the one in a stupid position, most good Hap Ki Do guys and Chin Na practicioners I have trained with know many counters and then counters to the counters. I say why do you need to submit, other words what is your mission to subdo for the police, to just calm a drunk down or whatever, if it is a street attack just break it and run. I have done a fair amount of Chin Na from Wing Chun deflections and when the person is really trying to hit you it is real hard to catch and apply what is so easy and cool when doing give and take. Be careful and dont expose yourself to undo danger unless you are a LEO of some other form of security.

 

I think I understand what youre trying to get at here, but can you rephrase your post in a more understandable way ? Also, pardon my ignorance, but what does it mean to be " a LEO of some other form of security "

[street fighter]

LEO law enforcement officer, or someone whos job requires them to try and arrest or subdo as apposed to a civilian just trying to survive an attack and go home. Yea I know that i ramble from time to time. So you have a bit of info on me I do work with the average civilians locally when possible and truely enjoy that time but most of my focus is on the military and those doing contract security work some of our more trouble neighbors around the world.

[Master Jules]

Thanks.....I ramble from time to time too....must be gettin older....lol.....Im a LEO as well, but Ive never heard that term used before.....