What art is better for street fighting?

[ACEkatana913]

kenpo is designed for street fights. real combat situations require the use of dangerous, fast and effective techniques. kenpo acknowledges that there are only two rules in street fights - no hitting above the head or below the feet , so of course there are no rules. I believe kenpo to be a great real combative MA but it does depend on the person.

[Chirath]

ASDF

Edited April 6, 2009 by Chirath

[street fighter]

For women I would say a grappling art like Jiu-Jitsu. Not being sexist but females can never become master strikers. For men it would have to be many striking arts. Kickboxing, Muy Thai, Krav Maga, Boxing, Karate (Depends on the sensei) e.t.c

Man oh man hope that there aint to many women close to ya, even though I do agree it is hard to turn the average female into a powerful striker I know from experiance that does not mean they can not drop the unaware man on his *, seen it to many times with a 120 lbs 30 yr old female, and a 160lbs female, no they would not last in the ring with trained men of their own weight, street defense is something different. I also agree that women need to know and understand the ground so they can have better escape oportunities as well as soft target destruction. Dude dont say that to a woman and turn your back, donkey punchs hurt. Thats all for now

[Muaythaiboxer]

never under estimate females i know some girls that throw a mean elbow but i do agree that the average women wont do well with strikeing i'd recomend Krave Maga because although it wont make you a master fighter it may save your life + its easy to lurn.

[Treebranch]

Just a question, but how much does Kenpo concentrate on defense against someone with a weapon (not gun)? What kind of groundfighting or grappling does Kenpo teach? Does Kenpo teach you how to use weapons?

[Treebranch]

Kung Fu San Soo you can't go wrong if you want to learn street fighting.

[street fighter]

Krav Maga, NA I like the F.I.G.H.T. program it does not take as long to learn the basics and is more modernized(if thats a word) than the martial art style of K.M.. Now understand I may be bias being I am a certified FIGHT instructor but also from a practical stance of time in training to being able to defend one self against the unaware (unaware being the key word in most defense systems). I think some people get lost in in the difference between defense and fighting, you may have to fight to defend but most systems of self defense are just that self defense against an attacker that is unaware that this persons has trained in a defensive system so it makes it very effective because of the "element of surprise", put that same defensive student in a ring or the streets with someone who is aware of their training and is a trained fighter the story will most likely not come to the same conclusion. This is where I would like to see more responsible instructors, ones who are willing to admit the short comings of the things they teach and focus on the strong points of their systems but always making sure the student is aware of what is reality and what is just cool to do, they are not always the same. In my experiance the simplier the better, the complicated looks good and is fun but generally not very practical. Some may say they can only teach what they have studied and I say it is their responsibility to learn more if they advertise to teach self-defense and are going to have people pay and trust in them, they in my opinion have a moral obligation. None of us have the one true answer but we all should try and find it.

[WC-Strayder]

Hey Treebranch, what's this "grappling this, grappling that" stuff for self defense? You do not need grappling for self defense, forget it! In a competition with grappling involved you need grappling, but to turn this in to self defense thinking this grappling stuff gonna change anything is to stretch it too far. A good striking art would do the job any day, don't be fooled by this grappling talk they always throw in nowadays, you don't need it! Try krav maga, wing chun, boxing.... but stay away from grappling unless you wanna compete!

[daeinwolf]

I have to disagree with you. Striking has its place in self-defense but so does grappling. If you can end the fight with a simple shoot and submission lock why bother with striking. Striking is very effective but grappling is just one more piece of the arsenal. And before anyone says anything about the ground not being the most ideal place in a real fight, I am referring to stand-up grappling with a possibility of ground fighting.

 

Why limit yourself to one range when you can have both if you train correctly? Besides which, the trapping involved in Wing Chun naturally lends itself to grappling positions. Why not take it if you have the chance? Do you really wish to slug it out with a street tough?

 

Both have something to offer. In my opinion, if you wish to train for self-defense try budotaijutsu(striking and grappling), muay thai or boxing(striking) + Bjj or Tjj(grappling), or any of the modern defense systems that teach tactical fighting skills.

 

SiK---Joshua

[Treebranch]

Well you really need a good balance of both. What good is your striking in the clinch? What good is your striking on the ground, if you don't have the dominant position? What if there is more than one person? What if the other guy is a better striker than you are? It's better to be well rounded. Stand up Grappling is just as essential as striking. In Budo Taijutsu we do everything and it's all important. I mentioned San Soo because it's very similar to Budo Taijutsu, but easier to learn.

 

Strayder Grappling doesn't automaticallly mean BJJ. A good throw can end a street fight if you now what you are doing. I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say.