ShotokanKid Posted March 7, 2005 Posted March 7, 2005 Just remember: Shotokan uses deep stances, whenever I fought shotokan fighters, they were easy to sweep because of hteir deep fighting stance (also completely noticeable in shotokan katas...weapons and open hand). I'm not sure I get your point... Deeper stances are harder to sweep, light stances are easier. "What we do in life, echoes in eternity.""We must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."
vertigo Posted March 7, 2005 Posted March 7, 2005 Just remember: Shotokan uses deep stances, whenever I fought shotokan fighters, they were easy to sweep because of hteir deep fighting stance (also completely noticeable in shotokan katas...weapons and open hand). I'm not sure I get your point... Deeper stances are harder to sweep, light stances are easier. not necessarily.. if all of their weight is on their front foot (where it shouldn't be), if you can pull a sweep, it should be pretty effective. If it is a balanced stance though, (if I remember right, forward stance should be 70-30 back foot-front foot), it would be difficult to sweep... the person can more or less quickly pick up their front foot and set it back down without too much difficulty. "Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go." - T. S. Eliot
isshinryu5toforever Posted March 7, 2005 Posted March 7, 2005 Deeply rooted stances, that are firm and strong are difficult to sweep, but this means that the person who is doing it must also be very strong. He who knows others is wise. He who knows himself is enlightened.- Tao Te Ching"Move as swift as a wind, stay as silent as forest, attack as fierce as fire, undefeatable defense like a mountain."- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
shotokanwarrior Posted March 18, 2005 Posted March 18, 2005 I never fight in a deep rooted stance, we only do that for conditioning and kata. Remember shotokan is a mixture of shorei and shorin ryu styles, the former primarily strength and the latter is very quick and light with rapid motions. Where Art ends, nature begins.
dingyuan Posted March 20, 2005 Posted March 20, 2005 I never fight in a deep rooted stance, we only do that for conditioning and kata. Remember shotokan is a mixture of shorei and shorin ryu styles, the former primarily strength and the latter is very quick and light with rapid motions. Deep rooted stance are very dangerous during sparring or in a real fight, basically it's as if you are inviting your opponent to kick you right in the face. Most of the early Kung Fu loses to Muay Thai is because those Kung Fu fighters tend to fight using deep stance and got themselves face full of Muay Thai kicks.
G95champ Posted March 21, 2005 Posted March 21, 2005 The art don't win the person does. Take care of yourself first. Now being a shotokan person myself. The best advice I can give you is be ready to be hit. We may lose but you will know SHOTOKAN was there after the fight. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
G95champ Posted March 21, 2005 Posted March 21, 2005 Agreed with some post above. SHOTOKAN trains in deep stance but I have never seen any of us fight in one. Why because we don't. Funakoshi points this out in his 20 precepts. If you fought somone in a deep stance it was not shotokan because no true shotokan student would do so. Yes we train deep to build muscle and speed but NEVER EVER fight that way. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
Ti Posted April 4, 2005 Posted April 4, 2005 yeh in shotokan we use that deep chamber stance, but generally nobody does it during sparring.Some of the more experience members do but not THAT deep.They do it to generate more power on the hit and the have more stability.
cross Posted April 4, 2005 Posted April 4, 2005 The best advice I can give you is be ready to be hit. We may lose but you will know SHOTOKAN was there after the fight.That advice holds true no matter who you are fighting, if they know what they are doing you will get hit.Who is this "SHOTOKAN" guy???????
aefibird Posted April 6, 2005 Posted April 6, 2005 Who is this "SHOTOKAN" guy??????? I dunno but his name crops up a lot... :DSon Goku, concentrate on what you can do. If your best techniques are a reverse punch and a roundhouse kick (for example) then stick with those. Trying to incorporate extra techniques that you're not familiar with or that you can't do as well is not a good idea in the middle of a match. Practice those things in your club with your instructor. If you stick with what you know then you're more likely to suceed than if you try something new and make a mess of it. "Was it really worth it? Only time and death may ever tell..." The Beautiful South - The Rose of My CologneSheffield Steelers!
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