zuluking Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Old way: You learn 1-2 katas a year, you receive 1-2 belts per year. New way: You learn 1 kata every belt, you receive a new belt every 3-6 months. Which is better? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojuchad Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 i think that grading and instruction should be on a personal level, different people learn different ways. I am from a very traditional school so of course I lean toward the old ways. When goju first started Miyagi would teach his students only one kata thats right you would only learn one kata. So there is enough in just one kata to keep you busy learning for years. Draw close to god, and god will draw close to you. James 4:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojuchad Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 also i forgot to mention promotions, I think that it should be when you are ready not just every two months or whatever. I know if you are trying to run the dojo as a business this is hard to do and retain your customers but they should at least be quallified for their rank. Draw close to god, and god will draw close to you. James 4:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuluking Posted November 16, 2004 Author Share Posted November 16, 2004 if you are trying to run the dojo as a business this is hard to do and retain your customers That is the obvious reason ranks are given out so fast in this day and age IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gojuchad Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 yeah it really is to bad that people cannont be content with improvement in their ability and let the rank happen. By the way what does IMHO mean. Draw close to god, and god will draw close to you. James 4:8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chirath Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 In My Honest Opinion. Personally I find the old way a bit too slow. Especially now most karate dojo's offer the new way. Although the old way does have some advantages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJJShotoshe Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Personally, I believe that it should depend on how hard the person trains. For me, I did the training all year for one belt and that belt didn't really mean anything to me because I felt that most of my classes were lazy classes and I began to expect my belt. With this "new style" my belts mean so much to me. I know I have worked so hard for the belt over the last 3-10 months. I have really striven to the top and am better off because of it. shodan - ShotokanBlue Belt - Jiu-JitsuWhoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care the themself without that law is both. For wounded man shall say to his assailant, if I live I will kill you, If I die you are forgiven-- such is the rule of Honor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorin Ryuu Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Well...in the "old way", they didn't have belts, and they would probably spend several years learning one kata. If you truly master only several kata, or even just one, you have all that you need to serve you in a street fight. Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedimc Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 maybe older styles of kata were much longer and todays are very short and remember todays styles dont have as much attacks as some of thier older ones because the instructer have picked the most effective ones , dpeneds on wat style you do. http://jedimc.tripod.com/ma.html - what MA do you do, this is my poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorin Ryuu Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I would have to disagree with you. It isn't that some kata were longer than others. It has more to do with the depth that a student would take their kata. Furthermore, I don't think there are any less amount of techniques in "traditional" kata today then there were a hundred and fifty years ago. There are only less techniques (or not) if you focus on the technique itself rather than the concept behind it. Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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