wingchunner Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 Here's a clip of my teachers beginners class of Chen Tai chi Chuan: http://www.immortalpalm.com/chen_video.htm enjoy! Marty Martin Yoderhttp://wingchunner.tripod.comhttp://www.immortalpalm.com
delta1 Posted November 12, 2004 Posted November 12, 2004 That's pretty good for a begginers class! Interesting, too. I recognize some of the postures, but see a few differences in them and Yang style. The thing I'm most curiouse about, thiugh, is that there are some places where the students apparently stop all motion. Is this a learning tool, or does Chen teach static moves? In Yang Taiji, we are told that motion never stops, though sometimes it is pretty subtle. Freedom isn't free!
wingchunner Posted November 15, 2004 Author Posted November 15, 2004 General speaking the form doesn't "stop", though there are times when an explosive energy is used, like at the punch or Arhat pounds the mortar. However, it was a beginners class, there may have been times to stop so students can analyze the form. Also, There are times when we "stop" but at that time we are working on stance training and therefore holding a position for several minutes to help develop the legs or we might hold the position so that way the instructor can come around and correct posture and positions of the extremities. Hope this helps. Marty Martin Yoderhttp://wingchunner.tripod.comhttp://www.immortalpalm.com
delta1 Posted November 15, 2004 Posted November 15, 2004 Thanks. I thought this might be the case, that it was for training purposes. But I had to ask. I do like the 'explosive energy' concept in the form. I sometimes mix Taiji and Kenpo, and I think the results are good. But, it can lead to static moves and postures that block qi flow- not to mention being a little aggressive. An example of this is Single Whip, which I'll use since I saw it in your form. The lead hand is generally thought of as the whip, and the trailing 'crane' hand is more a trap or parry. But I sometimes use the lead hand to clear as I step in to the same side as the lead. I simultaneously bring the trailing hand forward and execute a Kenpo finger whip to his eyes. The finger whip is done with elbow down, hand and wrist extremely loose, hand down in the crane position with fingers and thumbs touching. Elbow doesn't move, but forearm turns so that posterior surface faces forward as it leans toward target. It hen reverses the torque as it sharply pulls back and fingers are forcefully flicked into an eye. This creates some hard angles in the arm, especially the wrist, which occludes qi flow. Not a real problem for me at this stage, as I'm still a begginer myself. But it drives the more senior practitioners round the twist! And that finger whip to the eye can do some dammage- which isn't in the spirit of doing no harm and allowing him to defeat himself. Any way, thanks for the clarification. Freedom isn't free!
The Hammer Posted November 23, 2004 Posted November 23, 2004 Wingchunner: You're fortunate to be connected to this Chen Taijiquan lineage! Don't let it go. This is where I come from: https://www.chenzhonghua.com The Hammer
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