kung fu san soo

[iron duckee]

I was a student of san soo many years ago at the old Frank Woolsey studios.

 

for how long did you study? and who was your main teacher [aside from mr.woolsey]..?

I've only had to use it twice. Once against multiple attackers and once one on one. There was no contest. Both fights were over in seconds and I was unscathed in both instances. I did not fight fair but I walked away...they eventually were able to.

 

i'm curious. can you please describe the incident and what techniques you utilized..?

 

i, myself, has just started in san soo. so i have occasional doubts and insecurities of the effectiveness of the art. especially if i were to come up against a boxer and i've lost my element of surprise..

 

-- ironduckee=)

[Zhong Gau]

So, is 'San Soo' a choy li fut principle or not? does it come from the five families lineage or is it one of hung gar's five substyles?

 

someone earlier in the thread stated they were unaware of a style that developed out of hung gar that was also choy li fut: My style of clf is just that. My teacher left Yip Mann after being invited by yip to join him and went to study with Lam Jo, a reknowned Hung Gar sifu who placed either first second or third in the forms competition at the Beijing Nationals Competition twenty years in a row. Most of our system was formulated before the yip invitation was issued and was codified in Tiger Runs Down a Mountain form, which was Kwong's responsive petition to Man's invitation. Pui learned it from kwong, but that's okay 'cause we also do mantis forms. to paint a colloquialism: Hung Gar became the icing on Kwong's cake, specifically because of its internal form "Iron Whip".

 

After the formal challege by kwong against Yip and Chan Yip accused kwong of developing a style specifically designed to kill "3rd choy li fut practice inheritors" as the three styles of the Man system was known at that time in china. kwong defeated every body at yip's school except chan while he was a 'student' there: yip interrupted the first fight after watching it for some time. Yip officially defended his cream puff student Chan, declaring him the winner. eighteen months later kwong defeated both yip and chan in a challenge for the grandmastership. although chan is preeminant here in the states, in china kwong is legendary.

[iron duckee]

So, is 'San Soo' a choy li fut principle or not? does it come from the five families lineage or is it one of hung gar's five substyles?

 

here's a supposed lineage chart for clf/sansoo..

 

http://www.sansoo.dynamitedigitaldesigns.com/

[Joe]

Greetings all, I took San Soo for about 2 years by accident at the travis air force base I can not remember the name of my teacher but he did it for free, and practiced on my own after i moved for years, From what he taught us, and from what I got from the style is not all are thugs. As everyone knows San Soo is meant to end the fight as soon as possible. I have used san soo a number of times in a "fight" if that's what you want to call it. It was more like it was me just getting the guy on the floor or hitting pressure points so they screamed like little girls. (my teacher had us study pressure points I don't know if that's how all do it)

[pineapple]

I've never trained in San Soo (I don't think there are any schools in my area) but I've seen a lot of videos on the art and it seems to be a practical style. I like it.

 

As far as thugs, Everyone is an individual, some may be thugs, but probably most of them are not.

 

Anyway, this is just my opinion.

[Snakeeel]

Iron Ducky:

 

My primary instructor was Dennis Kirby. Although my signature shows me as a white belt I actually hold a brown belt degree.

 

In a real fight techniques pretty much go out the window. My philosophy is to hit what ever moves. With one of the opponents that night it was over with a back hand hammer to the temple...he was out. For the second guy I merely stepped in, grabbed him by the hair as I continued to pivot, took him through two tables that were bolted to the floor and threw him on top of the pool table where he decided to stay put. The third guy was coming at me with a pool cue, swinging it like a baseball bat. I stepped into it, curled my left arm around it and twisted it out of his hands. An elbow to the side of his head and he was done. Ect.

 

Do not doubt that it works. You do not need the element of surprise. The sudden violence that you will inflict on the poor slob that you're fighting will end the fight within seconds. This is the most violent style I've ever seen...and it works.

[Chaz]

I never plan on fighting fair, if I have to that is... Fighting is surviving, if my survival depends on how fair I am, well I'll except the title of unfair as well as unstupid...