Sad, but true.

[Kicks]

I just read through the thread "Confronting females" on the "Strategies and Tactics" forum. This is very disturbing in light of what I'm about to report. Please be careful about how you try to defend someone that you think is in danger.

 

This past Halloween weekend the father of an 11 year old child at my daughter's school was killed when someone thought he was abusing his new wife of 1 month. The wife had been drinking and the husband was taking her to their car as the party was winding down. They had argued some that night, which I am told they did frequently. I'm also told she has a rep for being troublesome and b-itchy.

 

As they walked to their car a man stabbed the husband in the heart twice with a knife. The stabber, who had been drinking, claims the husband was beating the wife and when he stepped in to stop him, the husband pushed him to the ground. That's when he attacked with the knife. The wife says no such thing happened. The husband has never hit her and did nothing that night. As of today she still has no bruises or scars to show abuse. But the knife wielding man stands by what he thought he saw.

 

Meanwhile, the 11 year old child was at another party. He mentioned to someone at that party that he really didn't like his new mom, that she was an evil step mother. Now that's all he has.

[foreveryoung001]

That is a very sad story. I hope and pray that the 11-year-old and the step mother can form a closer relationship, and that they will be able to support each other through the emotional road ahead as they begin their grieving. My prayers will be with them.

[DLopez]

Being drunk in public with other drunks... definitely sounds like a recipe for something bad to happen.

 

Sad story indeed.

[Rich67]

The key point here is the fact that all parties appear to have been intoxicated to some degree. The bottom line in any situation is, make sure you are aware of your surroundings and you handle the situation accordingly. Either way, if you decide to put yourself in an environment filled with unpredictable drunks, then you better be prepared to deal with the repercussions of what drunks do. It sounds like there may be a lot more to the story that isn't mentioned. You got a wife, who you have been with for a month, they argue a lot, she's getting drunk and out of control (read: alcoholic?), some other guy is very protective of her (hmmmm) and he is also drunk, and their 11 year old kid is at ANOTHER party while the adults are partying themselves, blah blah blah blah blah..... talk about a recipe for dysfunctionality. The 11 year old kid is the victim here, he has no real dad now, his stepmom is a drunk, and he knows no stable family environment. It all falls on the responsibility of the "parents", if you can call them that in this situation, and the adults in this world. We need to pull our heads out of our u-know-whats, and start being RESPONSIBLE role models for our kids by NOT letting them go out to parties when they're 11 unchaperoned, by not going out and getting wasted and getting into fights while our kids are somewhere else, and by not getting plastered and acting like fools in public. I don't feel sorry for any of the adults in that story. I feel sorry for the kid.[/i]

[foreveryoung001]

The key point here is the fact that all parties appear to have been intoxicated to some degree. The bottom line in any situation is, make sure you are aware of your surroundings and you handle the situation accordingly. Either way, if you decide to put yourself in an environment filled with unpredictable drunks, then you better be prepared to deal with the repercussions of what drunks do. It sounds like there may be a lot more to the story that isn't mentioned. You got a wife, who you have been with for a month, they argue a lot, she's getting drunk and out of control (read: alcoholic?), some other guy is very protective of her (hmmmm) and he is also drunk, and their 11 year old kid is at ANOTHER party while the adults are partying themselves, blah blah blah blah blah..... talk about a recipe for dysfunctionality. The 11 year old kid is the victim here, he has no real dad now, his stepmom is a drunk, and he knows no stable family environment. It all falls on the responsibility of the "parents", if you can call them that in this situation, and the adults in this world. We need to pull our heads out of our u-know-whats, and start being RESPONSIBLE role models for our kids by NOT letting them go out to parties when they're 11 unchaperoned, by not going out and getting wasted and getting into fights while our kids are somewhere else, and by not getting plastered and acting like fools in public. I don't feel sorry for any of the adults in that story. I feel sorry for the kid.[/i]

 

I agree that the child is the real victim here, but you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions based on three pararaphs of information. Although, your point about being a responsible parent is 100%correct!

[delta1]

The bottom line in any situation is, make sure you are aware of your surroundings and you handle the situation accordingly. Either way, if you decide to put yourself in an environment filled with unpredictable drunks, then you better be prepared to deal with the repercussions of what drunks do.

 

I have to agree with that whole post, but especially this part. Some of the worst whippin's I've took were when I was drunk, and especially when I steped in for a friend! I still like to drink, but I very seldom get drunk any more. And I've learned that the company you keep goes a long way towards keeping you out of trouble!

 

I also agree that it sounds like there is more to this story than we know. Still tragic, but maybe not the isolated incident it appears to be.

[ncole_91]

I am very sorry for the father, and the whole family that will be scared. They will be in my prayers

[Kicks]

Rich67 wrote:

The bottom line in any situation is, make sure you are aware of your surroundings and you handle the situation accordingly. Either way, if you decide to put yourself in an environment filled with unpredictable drunks, then you better be prepared to deal with the repercussions of what drunks do.

 

It seems I'm always the designated driver when we go out with friends. It seems unfair I never get to 'party'. Well, I wouldn't have it any other way. For years I have chosen not to drink in public for just the very reason in my 'sad but true' story and as mentioned by Rich67. When I do have that occasional drink, it's usually a glass of wine with cheese and crackers, sitting at home with my wife and watching a movie.

 

I heard today that the 11 year old child has grandparents that may be possible guardians.

[DokterVet]

This is why I don't drink except on very rare occasions.

[Beiner]

Poor kid