Drunken Monkey Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 you're missing the point. wrestling as seen in the WWE is a predetermined event. the moves are done with both parties co-operating and done in isolation. they might be a somewhat bastardised version of what may or may not be authentic martial arts moves from what-ever style, the fact ramains that it isn't a real representation of what does or doesn't work. moving to the topic of the film medium. the difference here is what is being portrayed. in a film, there are questions of camera angles, what film can (or can't) capture, flow, editting purposes, continuity purposes, character (which kinda falls under continuity) etc, etc. while film can aim to portray certain truths, in most cases, it is widely accepted to be far from it (unless you're under 14 and like to argue over who is best.....). and using crouching tiger is a bit of a skewed example. it is a film based on a fantasy book (of a series of five). as such, the film is a fantasy representation of a fantasy world of fantasy martial arts abilities. i think my point is quite clear..... as for michele yeoh. for a long time, whilst she was making her movies in the 80s/early90s, she was under the tutelage of one of the kung fu brothers of jackie chan (the big scary one who is often paired with the skinny guy with the 'tache). and finally, as i have pointed out in the past. martial arts=war skill only when you use english terms. when you go back to the original names/terms in their respective languages, war has very little to do with it. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich67 Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 Well put, Drunken. Mixed Martial Artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47MartialMan Posted November 6, 2004 Share Posted November 6, 2004 Because any form of method, from WWE, that can be used in a fight, can be considered a martial art. I had read somewhere that one such wrestler, defended himself using those WWE methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingyuan Posted November 7, 2004 Author Share Posted November 7, 2004 I know, I have a friend who's a student of Muay Thai, he is about to blend of wrestling moves into his martial art and perform them very effectively during a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47MartialMan Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 dingyuan, What type of wrestling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 "Because any form of method, from WWE, that can be used in a fight, can be considered a martial art" so if a tennis player picks up a stick and uses his backhand to defend himself in a fight, does that make tennis a martial art? post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longarm25 Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 you're missing the point. wrestling as seen in the WWE is a predetermined event. the moves are done with both parties co-operating and done in isolation. they might be a somewhat bastardised version of what may or may not be authentic martial arts moves from what-ever style, the fact ramains that it isn't a real representation of what does or doesn't work. moving to the topic of the film medium. the difference here is what is being portrayed. in a film, there are questions of camera angles, what film can (or can't) capture, flow, editting purposes, continuity purposes, character (which kinda falls under continuity) etc, etc. while film can aim to portray certain truths, in most cases, it is widely accepted to be far from it (unless you're under 14 and like to argue over who is best.....). and using crouching tiger is a bit of a skewed example. it is a film based on a fantasy book (of a series of five). as such, the film is a fantasy representation of a fantasy world of fantasy martial arts abilities. i think my point is quite clear..... as for michele yeoh. for a long time, whilst she was making her movies in the 80s/early90s, she was under the tutelage of one of the kung fu brothers of jackie chan (the big scary one who is often paired with the skinny guy with the 'tache). and finally, as i have pointed out in the past. martial arts=war skill only when you use english terms. when you go back to the original names/terms in their respective languages, war has very little to do with it.well said PhilRyu Kyu Christian Karate Federation"Do not be dependent on others for your improvement. Pay respect to God and Buddhabut do not reley on them." Musashi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47MartialMan Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 But wrestling methods are physical applications that can be used in fighting, more so than tennis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 road driving race driving. both involve cars. both involve driving. they are not the same. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingyuan Posted November 8, 2004 Author Share Posted November 8, 2004 Simple moves like DDT can be done effectively powerbomb is good only against a weared down opponent if you are tall and strong enough. I am not able to do those moves because I am just 6 ft but my friend who's 6'4 and with loads of muscles is able to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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