UFC, TKD vs Jiu-Jitsu

[Taikudo-ka]

Hehehe Yes I have done some grappling in my time. I even did some greco-roman wrestling in high school, and have grappled opponents in "friendly sparring" and "schoolyard fights". But I do admit that against a skilled grappler, I'll probably be taken down (at least with my current skill level). I have a big respect for all ju-jitsu styles, even ninjitsu, cause I have had that demonatrated on me once...

 

Hehehe I was a typical arrogant high school kid, checking out this "ninja" thing. I was the kid everyone hates to teach, who came in for one lesson and fought every technique and demonstration... and ended up flat on my back, unable to move, with something pressed heavily across my windpipe every time...

 

But then the art I'm studying incorporates both karate and ju-jitsu techniques, so in theory should be an interesting path, yeah?

 

 

[bjjbarbie]

yeah i understand...i just wanted to have a go at someone and u seemed like the one!! hahaha ....sorrry!!! yeah the style ur taking up sounds good!!..thats saught of what i do...mine is like kyosushin and gracie bjj!! its lotsa fun!!

 

[Dutch]

I come from a grappling background (primarily Judo (17 years) and recently (2+ years) BJJ) and have been fortunate enough to dabble with other arts (Karate, TKD and Capoeria) - in that time I've mixed it with some top players.

 

As far as general observations go: people don't like to acknowledge something they invest a lot of time and energy in studying is flawed.

 

When I started Capoeria I though "with all my years of competitive Judo training I should be able to handle these guys", well that is before the guys were throwing kicks at me every second for like 2 minutes straight. Yeah, I could close the distance and go for a takedown, but these guys were able to get around behind me more often than not... a very humbling experience.

 

On the other side of the coin, a few of my Stiking friends have tried out BJJ and Judo. These guys range from novices to 10+ years of solid training experience, but put them on the mat and they rapidly are fighting for their life (either being choked or exhausted).

 

Few people can become masters of everything, so it makes a lot of sense to find something you like and become the best you can at it.

 

PS - I was told that the 95% of fights ending up on the ground quote came from the LA Police and was to do with making arrests. It makes a lot of sense when it is put into context i.e. Police do want to be standing around trading blows with someone, rather they look to pile onto the criminal (overwhelm them through strength of numbers) and handcuff them.

[Iron Arahat]

That last quote is true, the other factor is typically law enforcement tries it's best to enter a confrontational situation with numbers on their side. Reason being they want to get the person down fast, and restrained with injuries to the officers or the accused.

[bjjbarbie]

well there u go hadnt heard where that quote came from!!! ...as they say u learn something new everyday!! hahah i had tacky saying ..sorry!!

 

[Bon]

Can't stop you posting, eh ? =)

 

 

[bjjbarbie]

hahaha......shut-up bon!!! ur the green belt in this thing..im the newbie whit belt!!!!! u send like a million msg's a day!!! hahahah!! :grin:

[TKDMASTER]

Yes, most of the time the grappler will win in UFC. But, it is by far not a real fight. No groin, no eyes, no fishhooking and this works all to the strikers adv.

 

I have been on the bottom before and there were many times where I could have grabbed the groin or poked eyes. But in UFC you are not aloud to do this. I do admit the effectiveness of the ground though. I believe it is mostly the person over the art.

[Mr Heel Hook]

I just think it's funny how people think Jiu Jitsu fighters (such as myself. I study Gracie Jiu Jitsu) have no ability to face more then one person. Kickchicks example, though partially true, shows how...ignorant (no disrespect, you know I love you! )...people are about BJJ in stand up confrontations. BJJ is not ALWAYS meant to go to the ground. Who would want to do so when facing more then one person? No, there are "moves" (if you want to term them as such) to control and harm people viscously while in a stand up position so you can have the time to run away. I dunno, I just think it's funny how some people class BJJ so incorrectly. Especially that...person...from the Royce-Yoshida fight.

[jiu-jitsu fighter]

very true slider. bjj is a very technically equiped system of combat we know how to deal with strikers

 

very very true heel hook, like flying guillotine, flying triangle, standing triangle, flying armbar, we got a fwew wrist locks

 

we have enough stuff to control someone standing up the only thing is you have to ask your instructor to teach you them and most people never do