TKD_McGee Posted January 5, 2002 Posted January 5, 2002 I watched a few Ultimate Fighting Champsionships and the Jiu-Jitsu guy always seems to win. I saw a TKD guy (9thdeg I believe) go up against a Jiu-Jitsu guy.. all the Jiu-Jitsu guy did was get close to him and tackle him to the ground before he could kick.. then the Jiu-Jitsu guy just started to wail on him.. The Jiu-Jitsu guy wins most of the time in UFC. Grappling always seems more effective in a skilled fight or street fight. Do unto others, as they done to you.
Aikidoka Posted January 5, 2002 Posted January 5, 2002 In enclosed spaces, the grappler normally has the advantage. A well rounded martial artist may be able to win by combination of grappling and striking, as demonstrated by the Gracie family. UFC champions have been beaten in tournaments in open spaces by stand-up martial artists, because their stand-up fighting was insufficient.
Jiggy9 Posted January 5, 2002 Posted January 5, 2002 Yet again - the benefits of cross training.. Shotokan Karate Black Belt ==Defend the path of Truth==
Punchdrunk Posted January 8, 2002 Posted January 8, 2002 At the top levels of competition it's not possible to win with just jujistsu as Royce Gracie did in the early days of the UFC. However, it is almost impossible to win NHB without a working knowledge of jujitsu if only to ward off opponents attacks. In my karate class we now alternate kickboxing style sparring evenly with jujitsu sparring because our fighters need to be confident no matter what the situation. Osu! One cannot choose to be passive without the option to be aggressive.
Slider Posted January 17, 2002 Posted January 17, 2002 TKD fighters will get beat down by grappelers no matter where they are at. BJJ will take you down quicker if you kick anyway. I advise learning to fight on the ground to compliment your arsenal. Hasta!! Slider Check out "Koldsteel" Enterprises. We offer a wide variety of aluminum samurai swords for training or competition. All of these swords are light as a feather, but look awsome. Http://hometown.aol.com/koldsteel504/myhomepage/profile.html
KickChick Posted January 17, 2002 Posted January 17, 2002 I believe more and more martial artists are taking up grappling to round out their repertoire but should do so without foresaking their standing fighting skills in favor of groundfighting. But graplling has its limitations too just as standing fighting does. You don't want to go to the ground against more than one attacker. If you go against an opponent who is a groundfighter, you should be able to know enough about groundfighting so that you can at least stand back up! ... especially against more than one opponent as in a street situation. You have to be able to get on your feet in the most efficient manner to ensure a desireable outcome!!
Slider Posted January 17, 2002 Posted January 17, 2002 My sentiments exactly Hasta!! Slider Check out "Koldsteel" Enterprises. We offer a wide variety of aluminum samurai swords for training or competition. All of these swords are light as a feather, but look awsome. Http://hometown.aol.com/koldsteel504/myhomepage/profile.html
G95champ Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 I don't think any TKD student will ever do well in the UFC. Because TKD is based on the idea of sport not combat. With that said the UFC did have the best grapplers in the world in it. Such as Gracie, Shamrock, Ruas, etc. I would have liked to see a Roy Jones Jr. or a young Bill Wallace fight them. I think grapplers have a huge advantage over strikers just becasue all fights end up in a clintch or on the ground. However I don't think the UFC has ever been able to get a top striker to go up aginst their top grapplers. (General George S. Patton Jr.) "It's the unconquerable soul of man, and not the nature of the weapon he uses, that ensures victory."
Prodigy-Child Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 when you go up against strikers its not too hard to break that distance line and take them down if u wanna go into a mixed martial arts event make sure you are competant on the ground because you are asking for a beating if you arent You can boo me if you want, You know I'm right!-Chris Rock
Iron Arahat Posted March 31, 2002 Posted March 31, 2002 I watched some raw sport TKD footage, it's no wonder that someone who trains to compete in that looses in the UFC. I have seen some black belt fighters throw kicks...which score points, and then fall to the ground. Or fall to the ground to have the ref break them apart. Seems to be a strategy for fighters that are getting crowded. Just these two things alone would lead them into a grapplers hands. Rules makes the fighter, put a grappler in a TKD contest, and he will get spanked badly! Changing the rules will change the fight, some of my guys were recently in a jujitsu tourney, in which they disallowed leg kicks after the first day, because of a concussion. It changed the fights. People's game plans went out the window, and there was rarely a kick thrown after the change. Better for those who trained exclusvely on the gound. Martial Arts School http://www.shaolinwushu.cahttp://www.liveyyc.comCalgary Photographer: http://www.jdirom.com
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