"Baji Quan" 8 Extreme Fist

[dingyuan]

Is there any Baji Quan student here?

[JerryLove]

I have some material extracted from baji, but I've never seen it as an isolated art.

[dingyuan]

"Baji Quan, also known as the kaimen baji quan (open-door eight extremes boxing), is a very respected traditional Chinese boxing schools. The word "kaimen" ("opening the door") is used because the sense of technique is six methods of opening ("liu da kai" - "six big opennings"), intended for break down the defence ("the doors") of enemy. The word "Yueshan" refers to Yueshan temple of Jiaozuo county of Henan province (a place of origin attributed to this style). In the past, "bajiquan" was also known as "bazi quan" ("Fist of Targets"), "bazi quan" ("Fist of Hyerogliph `Eight'") and "bazi quan" (Rake fist). During the Qing dynasty, bajiquan was popular in Cang county of Hebei province and in the neighbouring counties of Yanshan, Nanpi and Ninqjin.

 

 

 

 

 

Baji Quan is known for its forcefullness, simplicity and combative techniques. The eight extremes boxing is simple and plain, it consits of short and powerful techniques in both attack and defence. Elbows are often used in straightforward ways. The explosive powers generated are stimulated through breathing which is articulated by two sounds of "Heng" and "Ha". Powerful blows are delivered from elbows and shoulders in close combat agaisnt the opponent. "

[dingyuan]

By the way JerryLove, which martial arts did you combine with your Baji material? And just like to know, what are the Baji material that you extracted from the full style??

[dippedappe]

"Baji Quan, also known as the kaimen baji quan (open-door eight extremes boxing), is a very respected traditional Chinese boxing schools. The word "kaimen" ("opening the door") is used because the sense of technique is six methods of opening ("liu da kai" - "six big opennings"), intended for break down the defence ("the doors") of enemy. The word "Yueshan" refers to Yueshan temple of Jiaozuo county of Henan province (a place of origin attributed to this style). In the past, "bajiquan" was also known as "bazi quan" ("Fist of Targets"), "bazi quan" ("Fist of Hyerogliph `Eight'") and "bazi quan" (Rake fist). During the Qing dynasty, bajiquan was popular in Cang county of Hebei province and in the neighbouring counties of Yanshan, Nanpi and Ninqjin.

 

 

 

 

 

Baji Quan is known for its forcefullness, simplicity and combative techniques. The eight extremes boxing is simple and plain, it consits of short and powerful techniques in both attack and defence. Elbows are often used in straightforward ways. The explosive powers generated are stimulated through breathing which is articulated by two sounds of "Heng" and "Ha". Powerful blows are delivered from elbows and shoulders in close combat agaisnt the opponent. "

 

You sure did your research well.

[dingyuan]

I was told that the best Baji Quan add on is Pigua Zhang, just curious anybody here study Pigua Zhang? I heard that there are more females practicing that than males.

[MenteReligieuse]

Nope...I know there a Baji elements in Bagua Zhang though

[dingyuan]

Really? But as far as I know Baji and Bagua are two complete different once being forceful and violence (Baji) and the other is rounded and soft (Bagua). I would say there's a lot of Tai Chi elements in Bagua but not really Baji. Oh yeah it is also good to train Pigua alone with Bagua, these two palm styles mix up pretty well.

[MenteReligieuse]

Well bagua is mostly matched with xing yi, but dependant on the exact style there are some baji elements. At least that is what I have been told from a friend who has read on the subject. It could very well be the link between Pingua and bagua and baji that got mixed up.

 

With more research Bagua could be described as a soft in-fighting style while baji is a hard in-fighting style. Even with the hard/soft difference they both incorporate internal techniques.

 

Anyway you got me really interested in Pigua and Baji, doubt I can find a good teach in my area, but I'll look it up.

[JerryLove]

By the way JerryLove, which martial arts did you combine with your Baji material? And just like to know, what are the Baji material that you extracted from the full style??

I'm not the integrator, so I'm not sure. It's taught by my instructor (Richard Clear) as part of the Silat cirriculum (he was learning and teaching Chinese martial arts long before he started in Sialt).