MATX1 Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 sorry, what do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menjo Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 ummmmm, it seems everyone wants to get an opinion in even when most of the points have been said and a generaly answer has been found been agreed not to be found. But i do it too so who i am to blame...I agree too the first answer had a good outline. "Time is what we want most, but what we use worst"William Penn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shogeri Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Personal combat skill wins the fight. Not solely technique, nor methods of attack or training.Then add unforeseen circumstances, and sometimes just luck.It is about the person.I would not limit myself to boxing rules, nor would I expect someone to live up to any other set of rules either.So, strip away the pride and arrogance, put on some gloves and fight with no rules, save for death blows and bone crushing strikes.Both karateka and boxer should learn to get something out of such an experience.When we stop learning, we are dead. Current:Head Instructor - ShoNaibuDo - TCM/Taijiquan/Chinese Boxing InstructorPast:TKD ~ 1st Dan, Goju Ryu ~ Trained up 2nd Dan - Brown belt 1 stripe, Kickboxing (Muay Thai) & Jujutsu InstructorBe at peace, and share peace with others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbows_and_knees Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 there is a boxer in the UFC now who has been murdering everyone... 12 of his 19 wins have been by KO. 2 have been TKO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Warlock Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 interesting. what's his name and does he have any other training? "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbows_and_knees Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 paul buentello. He trains at an mma school, but is billed as a boxer. I'm sure he trains other things since he's at an mma school though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Warlock Posted October 14, 2005 Share Posted October 14, 2005 aye, figured. The billings have always been questionable in these events. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traditional-Fist Posted October 16, 2005 Share Posted October 16, 2005 paul buentello. He trains at an mma school, but is billed as a boxer. I'm sure he trains other things since he's at an mma school though.So we can assume that it was not boxing alone that won him his matches. Boxing alone has many limitations when compared to karate.When I see people representing certain styles in NHB contests, I tend to take it with a pinch of salt. Rather like fighters who claim to be "kung fu" fighters who in reality are not, and consequently end up "bouncing" their way into unconsciousness at the hands of FELLOW MMA exponents. Use your time on an art that is worthwhile and not on a dozen irrelevant "ways". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbows_and_knees Posted October 17, 2005 Share Posted October 17, 2005 So we can assume that it was not boxing alone that won him his matches. Boxing alone has many limitations when compared to karate.not really. if you watch him, he really only punches. I've only seen a couple of his fights, but I don't think I've ever seen him throw a kick. He has knowledge of other styles, but heck, these days who doesn't? I would guess he trains boxing and bjj. If you look at the mma scene today, many successes are a mix of boxing and wrestling. When was the last time a karateka won in one of these events?When I see people representing certain styles in NHB contests, I tend to take it with a pinch of salt. Rather like fighters who claim to be "kung fu" fighters who in reality are not, and consequently end up "bouncing" their way into unconsciousness at the hands of FELLOW MMA exponents.nah, it's not like that. if they are mma guys, trust me, they won't claim kung fu. Now, what has happened in the past, was TMA gave a fighter an honorary blackbelt in order to claim he trained in their traditional style. The guy took the offer just because they were paying completely for his fights and he was given a blackbelt. In reality, he trained there for less than three months, if I recall correctly. The kung fu guys are really kung fu guys. They may have trained other things - like jason delucia for example - but he is still CMA trained. Heck, I've trained CMA, but I will never claim it for a fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coralee Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 Boxers are trained to fight one style, in karate you are trained to defend in many different ways....in my opinion a well trained martial artist would do quite well against a well trained boxer. "The key to immortality is first living a life worth living" Bruce Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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