Baji Quan vs Karate

[dingyuan]

Well I am new to Karate and Shotokan seems to be the most well known around. So far I only know Shotokan and Goju Ryu maybe you guys can introduce to me more Karate style which you think is "better" than Shotokan.

[MenteReligieuse]

Kempo seems to be the most popular...some ppl on this forum swears by Amercian Kempo. My kwan also gives chinese kempo classes, I might check it out one day, but the fact that there are children in this class kinda makes me think twice about joining it...just in my opinion a kid will get more from running outside or playing footbal (or insert whatver sport you like) than assisting some ma class which he is too young to fully understand anyway.

[dingyuan]

We don't have any Kempo club in my university, there are only two Karate club there one is Shotokan and the other Goju Ryu.

[dingyuan]

"Bajiquan is a very practical and powerful style. It,s external appearance is rather simplistic while the usage of the internal body mechanics is quite sophisticated. Its notorious power is derived from the long, harsh and often unbearable training in the basic body usage. When fighting using this style, the practitioner would approach the opponent from a long range distance to body-to-body contact distance. During the time of the closing of the distance, the eight locations of the body are continuously employed in all the directions, and every technique becomes faster and more powerful than the previous. It's a very fierce and ruthless style.

 

After the interception of the opponent's right punch, shortens the range while executing a punch, setting the opponent up for the primary technique, then enters the opponent's "outer gate", breaks the opponent's root, and executes the downward - scissoring force with the same attacking hand, This is a typical bajiquan strategy the power from the body is released in a way that does not require one to retract the attacking hand in order to issue the follow - up strike, thus enabling the same hand to issue multiple power releases in succession. The first punch could be used as a major strike as well as a set-up for the next. "

[Sasori_Te]

There is supposedly a good instructor near me named Tony Yang. He seems to be very well respected in the Chinese MA community. He teaches the following.

 

Baji/Pigua

 

Beginning Training

 

Neigong and General Single Moving Warm-up Exercises Jin Gang Ba Da Shi (8 big posture training and fighting applications) Xiao Baji Form and Training

 

Further Training

 

Da Baji Form and Training Pigua Stationary and Single Moving Exercises Pigua First Form Baji/Pigua Combination Form Kun Wu Sword Form and Training Exercises Da Qiang (Long Spear) Training Exercises Liu He (6 Harmony) Spear Form and Training Exercises

 

Tanglang (Praying Mantis)

 

Beginning Training

 

Basic Warm-up and 18 Lohan Exercises Basic Punching, Kicking, and Stance Training 1st Set Single Moving Training with Fighting Applications Seven Hand Form and Two Man Fighting

 

Further Training

 

2nd and 3rd Set Single Moving Training with Fighting Applications Babu (8 Step) Style Forms Qixing (7 Star) Style Forms Meihua (Plum Blossom) Style Forms Mimen (Tight Door) Style Forms Liu He (6 Harmony) Style Forms

 

Internal:

 

Taijiquan

 

Beginning Training

 

Basic Neigong and Warm-up Exercises Basic Kicks and Single Moving Exercises (Yang's and Chen's) Liu's Abstraction of the Old Style of Yang's Taijiquan Liu's Abstraction of the Old Style of Chen's Taijiquan, 1st Level

 

Further Training

 

Push Hands Training and Fighting Applications Liu's Abstraction of the Old Style of Chen's Taijiquan, 2nd and 3rd Level Long Form of Old Style Yang's Taijiquan Long Form of Old Style Chen's Taijiquan Pao Tui (Cannon Fist) Chen's Style of Taijiquan Taijiquan Jian (Sword) Form and Training Exercises Taijiquan Dao (Sabre) Form and Training Exercises

 

Internal:

 

Yin Fu Style Baguazhang

 

Beginning Training

 

Basic Neigong and Warm-up Exercises Basic Walking the Circle and Palm Changes Training Xiao Kai Men (Opening the Gate) Linear Form

 

Further Training

 

Eight Mother Palms Form Tight-hand Form Deer Horn Knives and Hooked Sword Forms Dao (Sabre) Form Jian (Sword) Form Two Person Exercises and Fighting Applications

 

Weapons

 

Dao (Sabre), Jian (Sword), Staff, Xiao Qiang (Spear), Da Qiang (Long Spear), Hooked Swords, Deer Horn Knives, Needles, Nunchakus

 

Other Forms and Training Mi Zhong Quan 1st and 2nd FormsXing Yi 5 Elements and Linking Form

 

His website is: http://www.wutangcenter.com/wt/index.html

 

Tell me what you think about this guy.

[dingyuan]

Hmmm that's interesting I know very few teaches nowdays is teaching Pigua alone with Baji Quan (It should be traditionally). Take me for example I am still looking around for a good Pigua teacher to learn that as a must have add on to Baji Quan.