ramcalgary Posted January 3, 2002 Posted January 3, 2002 The only fights we get are from a local gym with a local fighter on the card ...No iska pro fights at all ...........HELP Honor is the most important thing a man has once you lose it it is gone forever
Danny boy Posted January 4, 2002 Posted January 4, 2002 If your in Canada get intouch with Mike Miles,he' steer you in the right direction. Try http://www.mikemiles.com
ramcalgary Posted January 4, 2002 Author Posted January 4, 2002 Danny Boy I live in Calgary and Mike Miles is the only promoter who gets coverage on our sports network. All of his fights involve bouts with one of his fighters participating. Sometimes these fights are not evenly matched. What I am asking to see in Canada is some professional fighters. Mike Miles fighters are for the most part ameteurs although his top amateurs could kick a great number of professionals butts. Honor is the most important thing a man has once you lose it it is gone forever
kicker Posted January 4, 2002 Posted January 4, 2002 well I live their too Ramcalgary and well I haven't either so well guess we just have to settle for the ameteurs but there still good when you do your best it`s going to show. "If you watch the pros, You will learn something new"
Punchdrunk Posted January 6, 2002 Posted January 6, 2002 Ok, I live in Chicago and it seems like 95% of the martial arts coverage I see on cable are those "musical" forms competitions. I respect the skill of these athletes but it looks more like gymnastics than anything else. The last competition I saw was the '99 Shidokan replay on ESPN 2 in October 2001. I s there a channel I should be requesting from my cable provider? One cannot choose to be passive without the option to be aggressive.
SaiFightsMS Posted January 7, 2002 Posted January 7, 2002 Hey, I like to watch forms competitions- as well as breaking. But, I too have noticed there is less ISKA kickboxing on espn than there was for a while.
shelbelle Posted January 8, 2002 Posted January 8, 2002 PART 1 - It has been awhile since I last posted. It is nice to be back. I just want to put in my few cents in regards to this topic. To quote ramcalgary, "I live in Calgary and Mike Miles is the only promoter who gets coverage on our sports network." I live in Calgary also and moved here from B.C. to fight for Mr. Miles. Why is Mr. Miles televised events a problem for you ramcalgary? When the Toronto promoters (Twin Dragons) puts on Full Contact shows that are televised nationally, they run a local gym in Toronto while also being promoters in Toronto? Events have to come from somewhere, so what is your point? Mr. Miles has been promoting events since the 1970's. Many television networks worldwide are looking at purchasing Mr. Miles shows. The Canadian sports networks are very happy with what they have seen. Would you like to fight on one of his shows? I am sure that would be no problem (more on this at the end of these posts). "All of his fights involve bouts with one of his fighters participating." 'All' is the wrong word for you to use. All his fights do not use only his athletes. Obviously, you are very wrong so why would you state such an obvious fallacy? All you have to do is look at the past events section on Mr. Miles website and you will see his events use athletes from all over against athletes from across Canada. Some events have more of his athletes, some have less, I am sure it depends on who is available to be matched up. I can think of only one event where only his athletes were used (or is this defined as 'All')? "Sometimes these fights are not evenly matched." I assume you mean when Mr. Miles athletes win they were not evenly matched but when they lose, they were evenly matched. Hilarious. Have you ever worked as a matchmaker before? Have you ever fought (where)? Matchmaking relies on so many elements beyond just athletes records. Mr. Miles athletes win and lose like any other fighters. The last televised event featured several of Mr. Miles athletes losing to athletes from Thailand. Using your logic, does this mean the bouts were unevenly matched in favor of the Thai's (who won)? Wow! Why do you make these erroneous statements? Why not get involved (more on this at the end of the thread)?
shelbelle Posted January 8, 2002 Posted January 8, 2002 PART 2 - "What I am asking to see in Canada is some professional fighters." Amateur, professional, please define a difference. There is a very grey area worldwide as to what an amateur or professional is in the Kickboxing ring arts. The IAMTF allowed Belarus athlete Dmitry Shakuta (a world professional champion of over 100 bouts as well as holder of many other professional titles to fight as an amateur in the World Amateur Championships and win defeating amateur athletes with a handful of bouts). So is Shakuta an amateur or professional? Can you go back to being an amateur after fighting for years as an active professional? Changing stride, I know of televised ISKA events where so called professional athletes were rank in fact amateurs (confirmed by the commissions where the contests were held). Here is one. How about an ISKA Professional World Muay Thai Title where the bout did not allow elbows, knees or low kicks. This is professional? That sanctioning body had already hand picked their winner (Schuster) by facing him against an athlete with only 10 amateur fights, now fighting as a professional for the first time for a Professional World Title (I guess this must be an evenly matched fight by the ISKA huh?). I have seen these fights and could go on and on. Before I go any further I want to make it clear, I am not picking solely on IAMTF or ISKA, as every sanctioning body has done things like this. These are just examples used to answer ramcalgary and his erroneous statements. "Mike Miles fighters are for the most part ametuers (spelling?) although his top amateurs could kick a great number of professionals butts." In regards to 'amateurs' let's take a look at a quote from women's fight supporter, American Dan Cucich: "Linley, Evans, and Cutbill can compete with any women anywhere the world. And anyone who goes to Canada to fight them, expecting amateurish skills is in for a very rude awakening." There are good and bad amateurs as there are good and bad professionals. The end of the posts: Mr. Miles has fighters who have worked with and fight for all organizations (including me). He has athletes who have fought for World Titles including the ISKA. Would you like to get involved fighting ramcalgary? I will let Mr. Miles know of your interest (tell him you go by the name ramcalgary and I will make sure Mr. Miles understands). I am sure he could set you up in an ISKA fight on one of his events with no problem as he knows the ISKA President very well. Let him see what you got and maybe Mr. Miles will put you on television. All he will need is how many fights you have had, how long you have been training both in Kickboxing, and the traditional Martial Arts. Please contact Mr. Miles at natkick@cadvision.com.
ramcalgary Posted January 9, 2002 Author Posted January 9, 2002 dearest shelbelle, I have fought and i do know Mr. Miles(or Mike as I know him by). Mike has done more for kickboxing and in particular muay thai boxing than anyone in north america. What I am saying is that I would like to see a greater variety of fights and fighters available in our tv market. As far as you suggest that I fight now...and you will let mr miles know so that he understands ...sounds like a threat. Grow up.. As for using the word"all" in the statement about his matchups it is called a random generalization. I should have said" most of "excuse me...sorry... I did fight in the past however once even on a Mike Miles undercard. however due to severe arthritis my career was cut short. If I offended Mr. Miles I am sorry. In reguards to you...do not try to cut people down when making a point ie. typing errors or spelling errors....humans are not perfect and we make errors. This forum is for discussion and although i seem to have really pi...ed you off I did enjoy reading most of your comments. Honor is the most important thing a man has once you lose it it is gone forever
Iron Arahat Posted January 9, 2002 Posted January 9, 2002 I'm just curious who you are, seeing as you are one of Mike Miles athletes. I also find it funny that you are so quick to throw out challenges all the time. Ramcalgary did nothing but show respect for your camp. Ramcalgary stated "Mike Miles fighters are for the most part ameteurs although his top amateurs could kick a great number of professionals butts." To me this shows that he appreciates the talent from the Miles camp. Shelbella stated "I assume you mean when Mr. Miles athletes win they were not evenly matched but when they lose, they were evenly matched. Hilarious. Have you ever worked as a matchmaker before? Have you ever fought (where)? Matchmaking relies on so many elements beyond just athletes records." I suggest you watch the documentary the business of boxing...the same lies true here (you can draw your own conclusions from there). Martial Arts School http://www.shaolinwushu.cahttp://www.liveyyc.comCalgary Photographer: http://www.jdirom.com
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