Kicking With Shoes

[White Warlock]

Be aware that in many areas, kicking with a shoe on is considered assault with a deadly weapon. Steel toed boots especially fall into this category. Also kicking someone while they are on the ground can be presented in court as 'excessive force.'

[longarm25]

Be aware that in many areas, kicking with a shoe on is considered assault with a deadly weapon. Steel toed boots especially fall into this category. Also kicking someone while they are on the ground can be presented in court as 'excessive force.'

only if you inflict serious bodily harm

[Hudson]

So wear the adidas TKD shoes. Problem solved.

[White Warlock]

Be aware that in many areas, kicking with a shoe on is considered assault with a deadly weapon. Steel toed boots especially fall into this category. Also kicking someone while they are on the ground can be presented in court as 'excessive force.'

only if you inflict serious bodily harm

Umm, assault doesn't require 'contact.'

[DLopez]

WW is right.

 

In Texas, any bodily harm would add to the assault charge and make you liable for "Assault with bodily injury".

 

That's a Class A misdemeanor in Texas. (IOW, just short of a felony)

[Vito]

Actually Vito, if you are reffering to the high section juping and spinning kicks frequently associated with tkd, then i'd have to agree with you, probly impractical on the street, especially for me, seeing as i'm below average for a guy. ( 5 " 4) head shots with my feet aren't impossible on a taller oponent, but they are difficult - I think i should point out though, that any good tkd school has a LOT of kicks other than just flashy high ones, and a lot are similiar to MT kicks. I practice low section and mid section lead leg round kicks incessantly, and the front push kick you describe is also taught in tkd. The style is really more versatile than people seem to give it credit for....

 

dont take this the wrong way, but i dont think you know much about fighting. never, ever, ever throw a head kick on the street unless the guy is on his knees or something. if you kick at a standing guys head youre probably screwed.

[47MartialMan]

I'm sure wearing certain types of street shoes would limit particular kicks. As in this case the round kick.

 

How? It will be like doing the round kick with padding.

 

Although it would be difficult to get the same extension with your foot,

 

Again-how? say kicking to the groin, then I would probably work on changing the angle of delivery.

 

How does the angle change with ot without footwear?

 

Just my opinion

[47MartialMan]

also you will find that pivoting your foot can be sometimes difficult.

 

Pivoting barefoot or with shoes? I can do in either way. Would that depend on the floor-ground surface?

 

as for drills , do the same just wear shoes. one will quickly find out what works best. i personally wear low cut shoes, unless at work. i work construction therefor hig top steeltoe boots for protection.

 

Will a boot hinder movement? Or enhance surface-striking damage?

 

also a roundhouse kick can bedone with a high top shoe, just not with instep of foot.

 

Roundhouse performed with a instep? Shoes do not have insteps?

 

Forgive me for sounding impudent. I mean no personal or directed offense

[47MartialMan]

I will periodically have a "street clothes" class and have people wear what they normally wear around town.

 

The type of kicking that we do (no high kicks at all) works pretty well with all of our kicks in shoes.

 

Myself, I wear either dress shoes (soft soles), low cut tennis shoes, or cowboy boots. The boots are teh only ones that limit certain kicks and aren't as stable on the floor, but they have other advantages such as shin protection against kicks, hard heel and edge, and are GREAT for foot stompin'!

 

Shucks, I thought I had studied and trained in these methods exclusively.

[47MartialMan]

first of all, if on the street, dont use your tkd kicks. anyway, in MT there arent a lot of different kicks, but most of them are useful on the street with shoes on. the front push kick (or a front snap) is the same as if you didnt have shoes on- the ball of your foot goes into the target.

 

Agreed

 

a roudhouse kick hits with the shin anyway, so once youre good enough at it you can do it with boots on.

 

In the case of a rugged shoe, why not roundhouse with the top of the foot?

 

even a side kick, with the heel of your foot or shoe, is about the same. the only real problem with shoes on the street is their weight.

 

Agreed-which the weight could be a advantage-provided that such was practiced.

 

personally, though, while kics are useful, i rely more on my hands when dealing with street confrontations.

 

Agreed, altough I like a low kick for finishing sometimes