The line between fancy and effective

[longarm25]

a crescent spinning hook kick combination

to many uncontrolable factors in a real fight (gravel for one)

 

did you learn that in a matsubayashi school?

[Karate Kid]

Actually, no. My class focuses primarily on low and mid-height kicks, ruling out higher kicks due to their general lack of effectiveness. In all honesty I 'learned' that after watching 'Return of the Dragon'. I believe Chuck Norris used it liberally, so I attempted to see what exactly he was doing.

[47MartialMan]

Fancy? From the previous explanations of fancy, seem to be "showboating". The fancier the move, the less it will be effective.

 

Fancy per tournament or street?

 

One should stop relating these "showboating" moves with effectiveness.

[Fat Donkey]

Counter attack spinning back kick, is my fanciest and the only reason I pulled it off was after training 3mths for a tournament and the having to use it in a street fight when I was really drunk, no concious choice at all, just automatic muscle memory

[Z-Rex]

A counter throw to a throw/sweep my attacker was trying to do on me was the fanciest thing I did. Of course he countered that by pulling me down with him. Turned into a ground fighting which I ended up being better at.

 

My attacker was a martial artist. Otherwise all my other encounters where just plain old basics. (I was a bouncer for several years)

[VinnieDaChin]

the line between fancy and effective is really more of a giant gap.

[Muaythaiboxer]

a step sidekick was the most complex ever got unless you consider a thai roundhouse to be more complex.

 

the line between fancy and effective is up to the individual. in a pride fight i saw a guy do a jump spining hook kick and KO a guy. but i would stick to the basics.

[Kreisi]

Tomoenage is a throw that looks very cool when done right and it is VERY effective. We had matches in our Judo practises and i throw my friend with tomoenage and my sensei started to laugh and said that it was a perfect throw and the throw of the week.

[Kempohands]

Do NOT EVER confuse success in a tournament competitiion as being the same being capable of defending yourself on the street. They are entirely two different things.

 

Excellent point, and that is the reason I cannot really answer the original question (I've never been in a real fight). However, I can say that I would bet my last dollar that I'd never use a "fancy" technique in a real fight. Usually fancy moves are also telegraphed moves unless the one executing it is a virtuoso at the givin technique. The only time I could think I'd get sort of fancy is if my opponent was temporarily blinded for some reason. I am a pretty boring fighter in that I don't try fancy moves, even while practicing in class. I prefer sticking to the basics.

 

Also, I've got a question, has anyone ever found a flip of any kind to be at all usefull in combat? I have seen people that practice martial arts in my area doing flips and gymnastics movements often; now I have an open mind, but I am having difficulty in trying to think of a real situation where a backflip would be useful....

[CadetRay]

there is moves that are feny n simple at the same time. they are also affective>=.