delta1 Posted October 30, 2004 Posted October 30, 2004 Sauzin, so far we'vw had only one thread comparing one aspect of basics:In American Kenpo, everything begins and ends in the neutral bow. Draw a line on the floor to your opponents center line. In a left foot forward stance (left neutral bow), the toes of the left foot would touch your left side of the line. The heel of the right foot would touch the right side of the line about a shinbones width back. Both feet are at 45', with 50/50 weight distribution. Knees are bent (@45', or a litle less) and slightly out. Coccyx (tailbone) is slightly tucked, spine stacked, head erect and chin slightly tucked. Left arm up so you look just over the hand, right covers the mid section. sounds alot like my Kempo and Isshinryu stancesSounds like what you described is what we refer to as out "Kempo" stance.Our front stance is similar. We call this a "fighting" stance and everything is simular except that the front foot is less than 45 degrees' date=' pointed more toward your opponent. [/quote'] Bit early to make any definitive statements, but there seems to be at least some similarity. Also, many of the Kempo systems definately had common roots, as some grew directly from other Kempo systems. No one is saying that they all came from one parent system, but they do seem to have some similarities that set them apart from other martial arts families. Only way we'll know is to compare and discuss it. Freedom isn't free!
Red J Posted October 30, 2004 Author Posted October 30, 2004 Only way we'll know is to compare and discuss it. We could do this at the first Karate Forum Annual Convention! I think that for the Hawaiin born systems there are more simularities in the basics than there are differences. The real issue as I see it, will come when we start the talk of principles as this is the meat of many kempo systems. Basics are the foundation but it's the understanding and application of principles that will bring us together for some great discussions. I had to lose my mind to come to my senses.
parkerlineage Posted March 26, 2005 Posted March 26, 2005 Eleven Freakin' Awesome Years, Baby!Whazzup, my Kenpo brothers and sisters (and mostly cousins)? Just got a nice little note from Red J on my pathetic Kenpo Roll Call of my own, and thought I'd drop in and revitalize this thread. Or at least be momentarily annoying.As stated above, I've been training for eleven years in an Ed Parker system American Kenpo (Lineage: Chow-Parker-Planas-Halsey-Me). I've been a black belt for the last four years, though it was junior because of my age until a few weeks ago (Don't knock it, or I'll tie you up with my white-striped second degree junior belt, then beat you with a wet noodle).Hopefully, I can bring some useful insight, not so useful insight, and just plain annoying sarcasm to this thread. Let me know if I do anything to be of assistance, such as shutting up.Peace;Parkerlineage American Kenpo Karate- First Degree Black Belt"He who hesitates, meditates in a horizontal position."Ed Parker
Kenpo-Sloth Posted March 26, 2005 Posted March 26, 2005 Hi,Rick from theAmerican Chinese Kenpo Karate System (ACKKS)Lineage: Parker-> Tracy -> Elmer and another path I'm not sure of??To know me is to say "What's his problem" Kenpo Training may not be a Lifetime Journey, but it's Definitely the Journey of a Lifetime!!
Red J Posted March 26, 2005 Author Posted March 26, 2005 Welcome to the thread. I need to get Delta1 to come back and rejoin our conversations. He was the resident AK ambassador. I hope we can get some of the dialogue back on track. I had to lose my mind to come to my senses.
Kempohands Posted March 28, 2005 Posted March 28, 2005 White Tiger Kempo; Lineage:Mitose-Chow-Emperado-Parker-Cerio-FescinaAs far as all the similarities, I was under the impression that all the Kempo in America came from Grandmaster Mitose, so it all branches indirectly from him and directly from another Kempo system....or so i believe. Thoughts anyone? "To win a fight without fighting, that is the true goal of a martial artist." -Grandmaster Nick Cerio
parkerlineage Posted March 28, 2005 Posted March 28, 2005 You may be correct.Ed Parker was instructed by Chow, who was instructed by Mitose, Okizaki, and Chow's father. I think it's probably safer to say most of them came from Chow, but yes, you could say Mitose was involved with all of them.I think.Peace;Parkerlineage(Woot. Orange belt in Karateforums for me.) American Kenpo Karate- First Degree Black Belt"He who hesitates, meditates in a horizontal position."Ed Parker
KarateChick2009 Posted March 28, 2005 Posted March 28, 2005 I practice Shaloin too Stop Reading My Signature- Get your OwnWhile your reading my Signie,Want to check out my karate webbie?http://www.ussd.com/
DKizzle Posted March 29, 2005 Posted March 29, 2005 Parker system, American Kenpo. Not sure what the lineage is, how do I figure that out?
lonekimono10 Posted March 29, 2005 Posted March 29, 2005 Hello to all, allow me to enter the floor,it is nice to have a great bunch of kenpo people in one place, yours in kenpoGeorge A Elmer Jr"club,stick, bat, hell they all hurt"
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