Overwhelmed!

[WorKshoP]

i know and im confirming his point

[MFGQ]

hi, i think you should avoid kicking their * so that they dont come to look for you like that guy did and kick yours. i think you should do a grappling MA like aikido or BJJ as they are very effective and you can take them out that way

[Gumbi]

When was shaoling kung fu part of the argument? I wouldn't even recommand shaolin for someone who wishes to learn a MA for the sole purpose of self-defense. I'm not delusioned about my style. Note that I did not suggest kung-fu in my previous posts.

 

MT is intense, true. The practitioners get to be pretty fit and well conditioned. But on the technical aspect, is it the best thing to learn for defense in constrictive spaces (like a over crowded bar)? Greatly doubt so. Just pointing out that too many ppl think MT is the utltimate and that it is the best choice whatever the situtation is.

 

Pretty much everything Vito said is true- you're NOT going to find a better standup striking style than Muay Thai- You're taught EVERY aspect of the standup striking game (punches, kicks, elbows, and knees) and you're also taught how to do it from the clinch. Ironically, clinchwork is often ignored by so many other striking styles, yet occurs in EVERY fight you see. Being in a constrictive space means clinches are bound to happen, and it is from there that Muay Thai is notorious for their devestating knees and elbows.

 

Now, as far as using it to be a bouncer- well, if you're concerned about getting beat up, it will certainly help you to turn the tables and kick the other guys *. Heres the problem though- you were hired to get the guys OUT of the bar while hurting them as LITTLE as possible. You crack a guys jaw with a knee, and chances are he'll want a lawsuit (but, better that than getting beat up yourself). This goes with ANY standup striking style, not just Muay Thai.

 

I work as a bouncer too, and quite frankly, a grappling art will serve you best. In order to get the guy out the door, you're GOING to have to grab him in some way, which turns the fight into a clinch. I cant tell you how many guys I've thrown out that have outwieghed me by more than 50lbs, simply because they knew jack about what to do when in a clinch/grappling situation. Not only that, but a choke hold is a nice way to stop an aggressive guy and it doesnt hurt him at all, unlike for instance a punch to the jaw.

 

If you do decide to take a striking style MA, I'd suggest boxing or muay thai. If you take a grappling style, I'd suggest Judo, Sambo, or Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Dont buy into some random karate school that claims to teach grappling either if the instructor cant prove where hes learned grappling- if the guy has credentials for karate, then he should also have credentials for grappling, and believe me its VERY easy to decieve someone who knows NOTHING about grappling into thinking you're a "master."

[DokterVet]

but I do not see how it can be more effective than something which is not sport oriented.

 

Muay Thai guys generally train harder and more often than most other martial artists because they are training for fights they know are going to happen. In the ring you learn what it feels like to get hit and to hit someone else.

 

If you are better conditioned than the other guy you have alot better chance of surviving, thats how it can be more effective than arts which arnt sport orientated.

 

I agree with cross. Muay Thai, Judo, Wrestling, Boxing, Kyokushin, and Brazillian Jujitsu are all sports, yet they are all revered as highly effective fighting styles. In competition-oriented martial arts, techniques are refined and improved through survival of the fittest. The practitioners also get to practice in a full-resistance environment, where they will gain most of their fighting ability.

 

However, in the case of a bouncer, I know that Small Circle Jujutsu techniques are very useful, because they include a lot of techniques that can be used to escort people, and get people (who aren't neccessarily trained fighters) to do what you want without knocking them out.

 

So if you want to be able to throw down and fight as well as possible, I reccomend one of the styles I listed above as 'sport martial arts,' or a MMA school. However, if you want to be able to dissolve situations, I reccomend small circle jujitsu, perhaps supplemented with a more combatitive style incase you're forced to fisticuffs.

[Muaythaiboxer]

boxing or jiujitsu (any form) sound good for you and muay thai is always a good choice if you want to be able to use a guys face as a speed bad.

 

if possible wrestling may be good to.