dippedappe Posted October 21, 2004 Author Posted October 21, 2004 Yeah maybe, but his book was telling you move around and sayid how to do it aswell. he strived to make his films realistic, and he was using films to show his ways and philosofys to the world. So they verent just films but also a way to comunicate to the world. And that was also his intentions.
cross Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 I think you have to realise there is a difference between "moving" and "jumping around". Sure in jkd you keep moving just like you do in boxing or any other art but its not jumping around. Also his movies were not that realistic, i doubt bruce lee would ever use those high kicks he did in his movies during a real fight.
dippedappe Posted October 22, 2004 Author Posted October 22, 2004 I think you have to realize there is a difference between "moving" and "jumping around". Sure in jkd you keep moving just like you do in boxing or any other art but its not jumping around. Also his movies were not that realistic, i doubt Bruce lee would ever use those high kicks he did in his movies during a real fight. I have seen him fight in a sparring, when he introduced fuld contact sparring, to the Western world. And he used high kicks, I think he did it quite often. If you see "game of death"(a multilevel movie, as he called it. that was where he really showed his way of fighting on purpose). In the last fight with Dan isanto. he jumpy like stepped around Dan a couple of times in a very relaxing way. also in the last fight against Chuck Noris in "Way of the Dragon". If you have ever seen the film "Bruce Lee: A Warriors Journey", you will see the game of death, how Lee really intended it to be. And it is a completely other film than the one you have seen first. In the fight in the movie scene you didnt see entirely that which was originally meant to show just how his way was Superior to others. So it wasnt just a film. And like I said before. His book tells to step in a jumpy way of relaxation. But I believe you have answered my question. "Is JKD being tought like the Bruce Lee way or as brutal street fight." sounds like its not my style afteral . Thanks
cross Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 Maybe if you tell us what your looking for in a martial arts we can point you in the right direction.
Drunken Monkey Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 it sounds to me he wants to fight like how bruce lee did in the films..... post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
dippedappe Posted October 22, 2004 Author Posted October 22, 2004 "Maybe if you tell us what your looking for in a martial arts we can point you in the right direction." Yeah I think thats bedst. "it sounds to me he wants to fight like how bruce lee did in the films....." Bruce Lee is one of the persons I look up to the most. So yes I would, but only partly, becauce he teached to be onenest to one self. If so I wouldnt truly understand what he said. So here goes... I think ive found a better word for the jumping. It it said that you have to move out of the way if you opponent striks out for you if you dont intent to intercept him. And you do that by stepping just a litlle out of the way an then you quikly move into him. So its more like stepping out and then in. If your opponent then moves towards you with many long and fast movements you will have to move quikly out of the way by a fast stepping or something. And the book told you to step-jump relaxing(its not the right word, but i cant find any other word for it) by doing a very little jump from your one foot to you other foot. or step-jump on both feets forth and back, but to do it in a relaxing way, not like kickboxing or boxing. and be able to move flowing, fast and without limitations. So to your comment Drunken Monkey, I have to say yes. I know its not what Bruce Lee wanted, but I like the way he fights, so free and so lightfooted. Maybe it is like you said it can be cross. "When you find an instructor of jkd they will probably teach you some techniques and the concepts behind them. Then you make what you want of them and add or take techniques away. So basically it can look however you want it to look but there are still principles and so on which are followed" Well thats how I see it atleast.
cross Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 Basically what i think your talking about with the jumping etc. is just footwork. You learn footwork in one form or another in all systems of martial arts. Weather or not the footwork taught in jkd today is the same as bruce lee did in his movies is quiet questionable. It depends alot on your instructor and also i beleive bruce lee took alot of his footwork from boxing and more notably fencing, so that would have an influence on what your taught in regards to footwork.
dippedappe Posted October 22, 2004 Author Posted October 22, 2004 THATS the word, footwork yes. Completely forgot it. That makes sense. But in my style, the footwork is by going into deep stance, so I wont learn much footwork there. Do you practice jkd? Will I be able to learn it just by reading the books and then practice that which is in them, and then discard and forget that which I cant use?
cross Posted October 22, 2004 Posted October 22, 2004 That makes sense. But in my style, the footwork is by going into deep stance, so I wont learn much footwork there. Stances are not footwork as much as they are positions you will find yourself in during combat. This means footwork and stances are 2 different things. Footwork is sometimes complicated although it doesnt need to be. Ask you instructor if he/she can teach you some of the footwork from your system. And remember, footwork is just movement like walking.Do you practice jkd? No, I practice karate. I have a couple of friends who are quiet experienced in jkd.Will I be able to learn it just by reading the books and then practice that which is in them, and then discard and forget that which I cant use? Its highly unlikely that you will can learn jkd or any art for that matter by reading books about them alone. You need someone who has learned the techniques before so they can see if you are making mistakes and guide you in how to perform the techniques correctly. If you find an instructor and use the books as a reference thats fine but you cant really learn just from a book. Also remember that bruce lees books dont contain the advances made in the system of jkd in recent years so its much better to find a good instructor who can teach you.
dippedappe Posted October 22, 2004 Author Posted October 22, 2004 Yeah but thats the problem right their. Theres only one jkd teacher in Denmark that I know of, and his pretty far away. How will I know if his any good? I dont know how hes supposed to teach me?
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