Short fist, long fist

[Hudson]

Can someone explain the differences between short fist and long fist, some examples, and possibly some links for reference, maybe a video of a Short Fisted Form?

 

Any help will be greatly appreciated so thank you in advance.

[dippedappe]

My style is long fist and it comes from the northern parts of china. it works like this. Its called Long Quan Pai and means white dragon fist...or something like that. In it you have to do like the name says(Long Fist). You have to hit from a distance:D. Unlike wing chun, hung gar and all the other southeren styles your use wery low stance. And very hi and fansy Kicks. All the sounthern styles use more hand tekniks. Thats about it that I know of them:).

[Drunken Monkey]

distance doesn't really come into it.

 

a good shaolin longfist guy can close the gap and attack you at elbow range.

 

a good wing chun guy can close a 6-8 fot gap attacking at the same time.

 

after all, to hit someone, you have to be at a certain distance anyway........

 

the name 'long fist' comes from and refers to the way the classical forms are done

 

i.e long and continuous and from where everything comes from.

 

the use of the word 'long' also refers to the chinese river of the same name which is long and continuous and where everything (life....) comes from.

 

technique/method wise, it's more about how you do things.

 

the older styles tend to be classed as long fist styles because they have as their basis (before you get into more in-depth ideas) are all pretty physical, featureing large movements to gain momentum/power/effectiveness.

 

the 'short' fist (short bridge) uses body structures more and relies less on large physical movements.

 

again, in both ways, there are exceptions.

 

as i mentioned, in long fist, you tend to learn large movements before learning the closer short bridge methods.

 

in short, long fist just refers to the type/style, not range or something similar.

[dippedappe]

distance doesn't really come into it.

 

a good shaolin longfist guy can close the gap and attack you at elbow range.

 

a good wing chun guy can close a 6-8 fot gap attacking at the same time.

 

after all, to hit someone, you have to be at a certain distance anyway........

 

the name 'long fist' comes from and refers to the way the classical forms are done

 

i.e long and continuous and from where everything comes from.

 

the use of the word 'long' also refers to the chinese river of the same name which is long and continuous and where everything (life....) comes from.

 

technique/method wise, it's more about how you do things.

 

the older styles tend to be classed as long fist styles because they have as their basis (before you get into more in-depth ideas) are all pretty physical, featureing large movements to gain momentum/power/effectiveness.

 

the 'short' fist (short bridge) uses body structures more and relies less on large physical movements.

 

again, in both ways, there are exceptions.

 

as i mentioned, in long fist, you tend to learn large movements before learning the closer short bridge methods.

 

in short, long fist just refers to the type/style, not range or something similar.

 

Your right about that you also fight in close quarter. But northern(like my style) styles is trained more with distance than southeren styles. In northern styles(or atleast that which im traning) you go in deep stance so you can reach longer, and then hit with you punch from distance.

 

Maybe Long also means something with water, but in this case it is refered to as Dragon. Long=Dragon Quang=Fist and if im not mistaking Pai means Style. Although I think Long quan pai it is called White dragon style or fist.

[Drunken Monkey]

nope.

 

you say that YOUR style deals with a little more range.

 

you are talking about YOUR style.

 

not long fist.

[dippedappe]

nope.

 

you say that YOUR style deals with a little more range.

 

you are talking about YOUR style.

 

not long fist.

 

You are partly right. My style IS Long Fist.

[Drunken Monkey]

i'm thinking you don't get it.

 

we're talking about long fist,

 

more commonly known as cheung kuen,

 

sometimes refered to as long distance bridge fighting

 

(not the same as long distance fighting).

 

not all northern styles are a form of cheung kuen.

 

not all long distance bridge users are cheung kuen.

 

your style is something that you call 'long quan pai'.

 

or

 

dragon style.

 

your 'long quan pai' isn't what we are specifically talking about.

[dippedappe]

I asked my teacher if My style was Hung Gar ones because Jackie Chan studied that...No matter. But He Told Me that it was Long fist.

 

Now I seriously doubt He didnt Know what he was talking about. I have more to write But im being throne out of the school because they are closing up. Il get back to it in about half an hour.

[Drunken Monkey]

school closing up?

 

where-abouts are you?

 

i mean, what time is it there?

[dippedappe]

Its 16:51...Dont know if you know what that is in America or where else you live. Okay im back now. hope you are still online. Back to the essue. although my teacher is a real PAIN and has a bad memory. He has studied the style for many years. He hasnt trained any other kung fu styles so I guess thats why he doesnt know about the name Sifu. And by the way...Did I tell you that hes a real pain in the *? and that me and my friends whos studeing there also dislike him?

 

Hope for your sake that You have have got a better teacher where you train.

 

I have never heard of that name "cheung kuen". But then again,,, I dont know very much about the names of Long Fist, Just what they mean. But hey, Lets get to the bottom of this. And by the way. Please write something in the JKD Topic I made.