Walking Cane Weapon

[JerryLove]

I have Chas Clemets "Cane Combat for Cripples". It's "kinda common sense", but I like it.

[47MartialMan]

I haven't heard of that one. Im going to look it up

[Ted T.]

Just got here, good topic!

 

I've carried a cane for years because it is invisible and goes absolutely everywhere!!

 

My cane work tends to follow cqc guidelines rather that more artistic methodologies...

[Sho-ju]

Just got here, good topic!

 

I've carried a cane for years because it is invisible and goes absolutely everywhere!!

 

My cane work tends to follow cqc guidelines rather that more artistic methodologies...

 

Good to see you here Ted, I've visited your site a couple of times via uechi-ryu.com.

[Sho-ju]

Which combative styles does everyone here use for the cane? I've been working shillelagh, goju shorei, arnis, hanbo and the Lang/Vigny method.

 

http://www.the-exiles.org/manual/lang/lang.htm

[Kicks]

Which combative styles does everyone here use for the cane?

 

We incorporate it in our Hapkido training. We use the walking cane with the hook on the top.

[Ted T.]

Thanks Sho-Ju,

 

do you have a Vigny teacher or is it just from a book or the net?

 

I have a student who does his own trainng at my place and he is practicing Vigny from the net and he breaks all my 'rules' (arnis) for generating power.

 

I can't tell if it is because the pics are static or because he is stiff (he is really stiff).

[Sho-ju]

I don't know what it is, sometimes when a martial artists picks up a weapon to study they just know in their heart 'this is the one.' It's been like that for me and the cane...I make them, I even studied work working methods just to learn how to improve my cane designs! I work with a cane 5 or more times a week, it's become a passion.

 

I use Vigny's book and have access to an arnis guro as well and a Okinawan kubudo sensei, my Vigny looks a little different. I also use the glancing blows as found in Irish bhata. I did Cane Masters for a while with a black belt from CM, I didn't much like it, it was ok to get started but it's very stationary. Vigny's method shouldn't be so rigid, it's based on western sword play, when my dojo meets to work on cane we move the whole time, trying to flow as they say. The circling guard is a great example of how not to be rigid and that's one of the basic's in his book, suggest to your student to seek further study and sources on the subject...example the 3 wagon wheels. I hear you can now buy VHS tapes on it.

 

I found that arnis strikes in general can't be applied to the cane with the same effect as the Vigny method. Arnis was designed around a short sword, Vigny used a 38" or longer walking cane. Don't get me wrong, arnis stick grappling is far better but the strikes and the pokes can't be used with the same speed and power as a short 28" stick can.

 

We also use jo and hanbo grappling methods while using the cane...there's no limit.

 

sj

[Sho-ju]

PS: Ever see le canne? Those guys NEVER stop moving! lol