Dijita Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Is the foot that is planted turned so it is facing the opposite way that you are kicking? I know that sometimes if I don't pivot my foot my hip hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 If the problem does not go away then I suggest you go get it checked out just to be on the safe side. Take it easy on it, I have a student with a similar problem right now and I'm focusing her training more on hand techniques, and only a few leg techniques until she heals and if she does not then she's going to the doctors. A True Martial Arts Instructor is more of a guide than anything, on your way to developing the warrior within yourself!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Is the foot that is planted turned so it is facing the opposite way that you are kicking? I know that sometimes if I don't pivot my foot my hip hurts. Yes, that will relieve the stress on the hip joint, but it is poor kicking technique. Your balance is off, your hips/back will be more turned towards your opponent (whether you realize it or not) making you more vulnerable, and you are losing power kicking that way. Just an observation. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dijita Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Is the foot that is planted turned so it is facing the opposite way that you are kicking? I know that sometimes if I don't pivot my foot my hip hurts. Yes, that will relieve the stress on the hip joint, but it is poor kicking technique. Your balance is off, your hips/back will be more turned towards your opponent (whether you realize it or not) making you more vulnerable, and you are losing power kicking that way. Just an observation. Uhh... no. I disagree. If you're off balance then you are kicking improperly. Not pivoting your feet results in loss of power because it is impossible to snap your hip with the kick, all the power comes from the hips (this includes 98% of techniques btw), ask any MT fighter. Not only that, but by not pivoting your foot, you risk tearing ligements and tendons in your knee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung001 Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Uhh... no. I disagree. If you're off balance then you are kicking improperly. Not pivoting your feet results in loss of power because it is impossible to snap your hip with the kick, all the power comes from the hips (this includes 98% of techniques btw), ask any MT fighter. Not only that, but by not pivoting your foot, you risk tearing ligements and tendons in your knee. I have to agree that pivoting your base foot is vital in throwing a proper side kick... at least in TKD and TSD. I could see how it would hurt your hips if were trying to kick higher than your waist without pivoting the hips. Student: "Why did you hit that guy with a chair? Why didn't you use your karate?"Master: "Hitting him with a chair was the only karate I could think of at the time."Lesson: Practice until you don't have to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Uhh... no. I disagree. If you're off balance then you are kicking improperly. Not pivoting your feet results in loss of power because it is impossible to snap your hip with the kick, all the power comes from the hips (this includes 98% of techniques btw), ask any MT fighter. Not only that, but by not pivoting your foot, you risk tearing ligements and tendons in your knee. Ahhh..well, therein lies the difference between MT and Shorinryu. We don't throw our hips into a kick, nor our shoulders into a punch or block. To do so turns your body and commits your technique where it can't be withdrawn easily in case you miss, or the technique is blocked. Not to say MT kicking is incorrect for MT...but it is incorrect for Shorinryu. We don't like to over commit our techniques, as they leave you open and vulnerable if you miss, or if you opponent blocks them the way that we do. Basically, we don't thrust our hips into a kick. They may not be as powerful as your MT kicks..granted, but we don't get countered much either if they miss or get grabbed because our bodies aren't as committed to the kick. Just a different way and philosophy of doing things. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 I have to agree that pivoting your base foot is vital in throwing a proper side kick... at least in TKD and TSD. I could see how it would hurt your hips if were trying to kick higher than your waist without pivoting the hips. And again, the difference is in the system. We don't kick higher than lower abdomen. Belt line at the absolute highest. We like our "privates" intact. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung001 Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 And again, the difference is in the system. We don't kick higher than lower abdomen. Belt line at the absolute highest. We like our "privates" intact. See what you learn here. I did not know that. Student: "Why did you hit that guy with a chair? Why didn't you use your karate?"Master: "Hitting him with a chair was the only karate I could think of at the time."Lesson: Practice until you don't have to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dijita Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 Wow that is interesting. I could never kick without pivoting my foot. I like the power. I like to be able to hit hard enough that it downs a person. I can't see how it can happen without the twist of the hips or the pivot of the foot. I do agree that lunging your punches is a bad thing. We are taught to keep our posture straight, but we still use our hips to give power to our punches and strikes. It does have the potential to leave you open, especially if you are fighting someone who is good at evading an attack. There have been times where I went for a kick, and the person shuffled back away from me, my kick went past them and I got kicked in the back of my leg and there was nothing I could do. However I still rather be commited to the attack and have more power, than to hold back. It's a different style of fighting, so to each their own eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorinryu Sensei Posted October 8, 2004 Share Posted October 8, 2004 See what you learn here. I did not know that. And just a little FYI...I'm 6'6" tall, and can kick easily this way to a height in the middle of my chest with a side kick. I practice that high in basics for flexability, but NEVER in sparring. My senior student sees to that (thank God for cups!) I taught him to well I think sometimes. My nightly prayer..."Please, just let me win that PowerBall Jackpot just once. I'll prove to you that it won't change me!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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