RyuKyu Kempo?

[Little Dragon]

i checked out the place online.

 

They mention pressure points attacks,circle ju jitsus,and arnis..and a few other stuff.

[AngelaG]

i checked out the place online.

 

They mention pressure points attacks,circle ju jitsus,and arnis..and a few other stuff.

 

Well there's nowt long with learning about PPs as long as it's done in a sensible fashion and alongside other training. PPs can give you that little extra in a fight, but you wouldn't want to rely solely on them.

[Little Dragon]

yeah..ive notcied that i cant do much in a fight for tkd..all i could do is just kick and punch..not saying thats a bad thing since those were the only things that help me defend myself in all the street fights ive been in..but i want to learn to use my elbow..backhand..traps..etc..tkd doesnt teach that..well mines doesnt-.-

[Sasori_Te]

This is Oyata Senseis background from Mike Minor's website:

 

Taika Oyata's family lineage dates back to the Zana family, which was a Bushi family in Shuri, Okinawa. His ancestor Zana Oyakata (Oyakata is title) was the King's scholar. When Japan invaded Okinawa around 1609, the Shuri King was captured and the Zana family head resisted and was killed. The Japanese also required the family to change their name to Sinda which means Death. Years later the family name was changed to Ikemiyagusiku and eventually became Oyata.

 

Taika's father was the middleweight Sumo champion of all Okinawa. When he was young, he and the rest of the Sumo team challenged all comers in Okinawa. Kana Oyata was the strongest man on the team and won the competion for his native island. Taika was the fourth son of Kana Oyata and the youngest. His three brothers Taro, Kiseii and Akio were killed in the second World War, He, also fought during the war and was commissioned a lieutenant in the Japanese Navy. If the war continued a few months longer, Taika Oyata would have joined his brothers in death because he had been selected for a suicide (torpedo) mission, his death certificate had already been sent to his remaining family. As a part of training in the Navy, Taika was required to train in Iado (art of the sword), this is where Taika got his introduction to Martial Arts. When the war ended Taika returned to Okinawa and continued his studies of the martial arts. About this time he started a job working for the US government delivering food to the smaller islands. Food was not readily available and there was much starvation on the islands. Taika Oyata was stationed in the village of Termu where at age 17, He met Uhugusiku No Tan Mei who was from a Bushi Family that resided in Shuri. Uhugusiku No Tan Mei was about 93 years old at the time of their meeting. Because Taika Oyata had royal blood in his ancestry he was allowed to study under Master Uhugusiku. Taika Oyata took extensive weapons training from Master Uhugusiku, learning many aspects of the indigenous weapons of Okinawa.

 

Taika was also introduced to Master Wakinaguri who as a Chinese Martial Artist and was also a Bushi warrior. Master Wakinaguri was asked to teach Taika the art of vital point striking and pressure point striking, techniques for which Master Wakinaguri was renowned. When Taika Oyata met him he noticed that all the fingers on Master Wakinaguri's hands were the same lenght. This was due to many years of training by thrusting his hands into pumice.

 

Taika Oyata was Master Uhugusiku's only student, at the time, He considered Taika a family member calling him "Mago" which is Okinawan for grandson and teaching him more than he would have a regular student. After the deaths of his previous instructors, Taika joined an analytical research group along with Master Nakamura and trained with Master Uehara. He was accepted as an instructor/student in Master Nakamura's Dojo becuase he had studied from Uhugusiku No Tan Mei. From Master Nakamura, Taika learned the tweleve empty hand kata he now teaches to his present students. Taika worked with Master Uehara (Motobu Ryu) on weapons and was a training partner.

 

Through the years, Taika has constantly analyzed the kata and the human body. He developed his own style of tuite that wasn't dependent of strength but of execution of technique.

 

Oyata Sensei is, without a doubt in my mind, the best martial artist that I have ever seen up close and in person. He is amazing. However, RyuTe is a VERY complex style and takes time to become truly proficient in the techniques. Oyata Sensei says that he only had George Dillman in 2 or 3 seminars that he can remember. He says he never received any rank from him. From research, it seems that George Dillman makes many claims like this. Idon't know as I have never met Dillman personally. I am familiar with Rick Moneymaker and Tom Muncy and their Torite Jutsu style. I feel these gentlemen are actually doing what they think is best to further their art as well as martial arts in general. I don't however agree with everything that they do.

[Little Dragon]

the skool is ran by Mark Kline..anyone know him?

[kempocos]

Yes, he was one of DILLMAN top students and has left him to train with Evan Patanzki (sp?) of KYUSHO INT. /KI. I have not met him but know many who came up the ranks with him. They spoke well of his ability. You will do alot of what will seem like ju jitsu with "in close" techniques. He is one a few in the area who hold a Black belt from Remy Prases in Modern Arnis, so the stick work will be good. If he starts heavy with PP information before you learn his techniques be careful that information should be preseneted at the right time once the besics in his style are down cold.

[Little Dragon]

so hes more on grappling than striking?

[kempocos]

The style is about a balance of both. staying in close useing strikes to setup a grapple techinque be it a lock or a break/muscle rip. The modern arnis is real cool , Some TKD schools do sticks but not like Filipinos. The stances and movements complent the Kempo real nice. And Wally Jay is a legend and his small cirlce ju jitsu kicks butt. Mark as a 7th dan with Dillman got to spend alot of time with him.

 

Remember you will hear / read things about dillman, Mark left him due to diffrances in concepts. I think it is worth a trail run of a month or so, you can alway quit. Do not sign a long term contract.

[Little Dragon]

long term contract?

 

at my tkd place..if u want to quit..u stop comming...haha guess i better find more info about the skool...but then im to lazy...im only 15..xP

[longarm25]

My Bro-in-Law runs a dojo that features JJ, RyuKyu Kempo, and Modern Arnis. Sounds like some George Dillman stuff....I'm a little leary about some of the stuff Dillman teaches...."touchless knockouts" and stuff like that. I'll believe it when I experience it.

 

Anything to do with Dillman...RUN!!! Is RyuKyu kempo Dillman's system?

Ryu Kyu Kempo is Dillmans system

 

ERRRR not necessarily!!!!

I agree that Oyata Created Ryu Kyu Kempo however Oyata changed the name of his art to distance himself from Dillman. Some of dillman's early

 

stuff was not that bad until he went to the dark side(ie no touch knock outs ... Money before people....ect)