Pa Kua

[turonaga]

are we gonna talk about bagua or are we gonna keep jerkin off over the pronunciation or what the word means... i for one am terribly interested in this art and would like to learn something about it. can someone who knows something about speak up. i heard somewhere it was based off of an eight sided figure, sort of like a math equation that was developed by a shaolin monk that cuts off angles can ANYONE WHO REALLY KNOWS SOMETHING VERIFY PLEASE.. it would be very much appreciated

 

well, accdg to my friend it was developed by tung hai chuan but nobody knows for sure who founded it. it moves circular motion etc. its much too complicated for me. i mean to learn and practice it but i've no problema sparring with it

[Zhong Gau]

no.

 

the zhang as in baguazhang is NOT puffy or swollen.

 

which is why i mentioned 'palm'.

 

in chinese, it is almost always 'eight trigram palm',

 

not 'fist'.

 

Yeah, but isn't the nuance something like 'continuously changing stance' or 'approach'

[Zhong Gau]

regaurding characters:

 

many different character in chinese have pronunciations that our anglican ears can't differentiate so they all sound like a similar word , Zhang, for instance:

 

ba gua zhang

 

zhang gung/zhong gau

 

zhang xiamen

 

zhang hua yu

 

zhang gee/gong gi

 

most characters have multiple meanings that can only be deciphered through parcing the context.

[Zhong Gau]

since y'all like to gritch about the meaning of words so much perhaps you should read the philosophy of Martin Heidegger.

[Zhong Gau]

Light work:

Edited December 12, 2004 by Zhong Gau

[Zhong Gau]

I have much respect for Drunken Monkey and MartialMan until they start fighting like children . But, I think it's been established, Pa-Kua/Bagua are definately "kung-fu".

 

the nice thng about this discussion is it is very much a circular expression, a dance even, of two opponents sizing each other up and deciding when to pounce.