JerryLove Posted October 6, 2004 Posted October 6, 2004 the shuai chiao guys I play with blend their system with kuntao. The instructor trained under steve gartin.I've interacted with Steve Gartin once or twice. He was (is?) a senior student of Williem DeThouars (who I have interacted with on many occasions)... The man (Gartin) is impressive as hell with a knife. https://www.clearsilat.com
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