tommarker Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 get a shotgun I'm no longer posting here. Adios.
yamesu Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 dont get a gun................ DOWN WITH GUN CULTURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Osu. "We did not inherit this earth from our parents. We are borrowing it from our children."
yamesu Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 defeat your enimies with your mind and will........... DOWN WITH GUN CULTURE!!!!!!! Osu. "We did not inherit this earth from our parents. We are borrowing it from our children."
47MartialMan Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 Defeat what enimies with mind and will? Oh, I get it. If someone breaks into our home and intends to do my wife harm, she has the "mind" and the "will" to send bullets flying-end of story.
Shorin Ryuu Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 This is a serious question, not meant to be inflammatory, but I am simply wondering about this: "Gun Culture" is seen as negative by some people, because it places enormous power in the hands of other people. Is it viewed as negative because of that power itself? If so, then shouldn't martial arts be banned as well, since that gives someone lethal power? Or, is it simply because that power is indiscriminate in that it is given to people regardless of what they are like? If so, then should martial arts that do not teach a philosophy of using it only as a last resort be banned? Isn't this simply the same as ensuring that gun buyers are responsible? Martial Arts Blog:http://bujutsublogger.blogspot.com/
steveb Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 "Gun culture" seems to have become the polite way of saying "thugs w/ weapons". People are not generally afraid of those who use / own guns in a responsible manner for hunting, collecting, etc. Even though they might not say so they are afraid of the people not the weapon. So suppose we wave our magic wand and there are no more guns anywhere. Will people still live in fear? Sure they will because there will always be thugs who use whatever weapon is available to intimidate/assault/coerce others to do their bidding. That thug is going to be just as dangerous with a crossbow as he was with a gun. Get rid of the crossbows? Now he's got a knife. No knives? Now he's got a rock. Guns level the playing field for those who are not as physically strong and are confronted by an armed assailant. It is not the "gun culture" that needs to go away, it is the "thug culture". Just my 2 cents. For the record, I do not now nor have I ever owned a gun. Res firma, mitescere nescit
thaiboxerken Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 Me thinks SteveB is correct. Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts.
47MartialMan Posted October 4, 2004 Posted October 4, 2004 "Gun culture" seems to have become the polite way of saying "thugs w/ weapons". People are not generally afraid of those who use / own guns in a responsible manner for hunting, collecting, etc. Even though they might not say so they are afraid of the people not the weapon. So suppose we wave our magic wand and there are no more guns anywhere. Will people still live in fear? Sure they will because there will always be thugs who use whatever weapon is available to intimidate/assault/coerce others to do their bidding. That thug is going to be just as dangerous with a crossbow as he was with a gun. Get rid of the crossbows? Now he's got a knife. No knives? Now he's got a rock. Guns level the playing field for those who are not as physically strong and are confronted by an armed assailant. It is not the "gun culture" that needs to go away, it is the "thug culture". Just my 2 cents. For the record, I do not now nor have I ever owned a gun. Bravo. It is not the "gun that kills". Gun laws make innocent people pay. Criminals get guns despite gun laws, why...because they ARE criminals.
yamesu Posted October 5, 2004 Posted October 5, 2004 This is a serious question, not meant to be inflammatory, but I am simply wondering about this: "Gun Culture" is seen as negative by some people, because it places enormous power in the hands of other people. Is it viewed as negative because of that power itself? If so, then shouldn't martial arts be banned as well, since that gives someone lethal power? Or, is it simply because that power is indiscriminate in that it is given to people regardless of what they are like? If so, then should martial arts that do not teach a philosophy of using it only as a last resort be banned? Isn't this simply the same as ensuring that gun buyers are responsible? this is a very good and valid point, but like david carridine once said; martial arts is enlightning, thats something you dont get with other war methods or forms of combat. Maybe doing martial arts should be controlled like guns, having names listed on rolls for every practicing martial-artist, but would that lower crime? Ill wait for the day the gov' throws a "trade in your black-belts for guitars day"...........hehehe "Gun culture" seems to have become the polite way of saying "thugs w/ weapons". People are not generally afraid of those who use / own guns in a responsible manner for hunting, collecting, etc. Even though they might not say so they are afraid of the people not the weapon. So suppose we wave our magic wand and there are no more guns anywhere. Will people still live in fear? Sure they will because there will always be thugs who use whatever weapon is available to intimidate/assault/coerce others to do their bidding. That thug is going to be just as dangerous with a crossbow as he was with a gun. Get rid of the crossbows? Now he's got a knife. No knives? Now he's got a rock. Guns level the playing field for those who are not as physically strong and are confronted by an armed assailant. It is not the "gun culture" that needs to go away, it is the "thug culture". Just my 2 cents. also a nice point, kinda reinforces the saying: "guns dont kill people.......people kill people........." "We did not inherit this earth from our parents. We are borrowing it from our children."
yamesu Posted October 5, 2004 Posted October 5, 2004 "guns dont kill people.......people kill people........." i guess thats why its gun CULTURE, eh? "We did not inherit this earth from our parents. We are borrowing it from our children."
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