Help me prove someone wrong

[scottnshelly]

Some how this guy at work has found out about my Martial experience. i usually keep it under wraps because of the attention that it causes.

 

He was started telling me about the Martial Arts that he has studied. At first he studied something called Pai Gow (sp?), then something with a Mu or Mo. Recently he told me that he studied under the only person with written consent to from Bruce Lee to teach Jeet Kun Do, Gary Dill out of Oklahoma! I know that most of Lee's schools were in California and Washington, so how likely is it that anyone from there ended up in Oklahoma?

 

He is pretty knowledgable on most topics, so i know that he's at least read a lot on Jeet Kun Do.

 

usually i can tell someone's rank (plus or minus one) by watching them walk or move. this guy reminds me of a white belt.

 

Any one heard of this alleged Gary Dill out of Talequah, OK? Is there really only one person authorized to teach Jeet Kun Do?

 

Thanks

[thaiboxerken]

Gary Dill was one of Lee's original student. However, the claim that he was the only person given written authorization to teach JKD may or may not be true. Does it really matter, though? Bruce Lee's "JKD" was dynamic and changed constantly while Lee was alive, his curriculum was often being scrapped and rewritten.

 

I personally think Inosanto is just one of few people that truly understood what Lee was trying to communicate with the martial arts world with JKD. Oh well, there are always going to be lots of people making claims about JKD. Just consider it noise, JKD is a concept/philosophy more than an actual martial art.

[scottnshelly]

Thanks,

 

I have read a couple of Lee's books, so i am vaguely familiar with the concept of no style. I was mainly curious as to his claim of having a direct line to Bruce Lee and learning from the only authorized instructor.

 

It's one of my biggest pet peaves to hear someone blab on and on about the Martial Arts and never say one correct thing.

 

I guess it was also hard for me to grasp the concept that someone of importance could move to Oklahoma. Being a native of Oklahoma, i know that there is a very limited selection of Martial Arts around. Mainly Americanized Tae Kwon Do. Maybe i should look this Dill guy up and see what he's teaching and how it compares to what i've read and seen of Jeet Kun Do.

 

I would be interested in hearing what others have to say about this Dill guy.

 

thanks agian,

[Shane]

Sometimes it is best to prove someone wrong with a fight to the death match. It could be held at your work as long as upper managment agrees and ofcourse for insurance purposes we would need some type of waiver.

 

Just Kidding

 

You know I'm no expert on JKD, but thaiboxerken sounds like he knows what he's talking on this. I wouldnt even worry to much about it. People can talk all they want, and tell me the trained this and that, of course I dont pay much to it, Iam all about getting on the mat and training, thats were you learn whos just talking and whos for real.

[thaiboxerken]

I think Dill is into the one-hit KO crap. I'm not sure, but if he is.. he might not teach anything useful. Then again, it's possible that he teaches some good info along with the *.

[Drunken Monkey]

pai gow?

 

um, not sure what that is.

 

the closest i can think of that it could be in cantonese, is a chinese gambling game that uses dominos.....

[foreveryoung001]

pai gow?

 

um, not sure what that is.

 

the closest i can think of that it could be in cantonese, is a chinese gambling game that uses dominos.....

 

Well sure, but haven't you seen the way those domino guys rumble when they've been cheated? I could see how that would be a deadly art.

[scottnshelly]

See, that is one of the many lies that i have caught this guy in. One night he told me that he had studied this alleged "pai gow". it was a style of traps and locks using belts and clothes and other odd items. i've never heard of anything like it. i have studied some traps using a belt in my Kenpo class, but it wasn't it's own style.

 

then on another night, i over heard him telling someone else that he was tied into the vietnamese mafia and like to play the vietnamese poker game called pai gow.

 

interesting how he studied a martial art with the same name about a week ago, eh?

 

thanks for the inputs here

[Drunken Monkey]

whao...

 

i just mentioned what 'pai gow' might be in cantonese from how i read it.

 

between what you heard and what you type and what i read, there might be some discrepencies.

[Hudson]

Something with a Mu or Mo? Could it be Moo Duk Kwan? If so that's the reason I started my own martial arts path, I have an older brother who is 2nd degree black belt in that and he's always kicked my butt around when we spar. If that's what he said, that's real. However, I have found one principal to be true - people who flaunt off a bunch of martial arts names are usually a jack of trades, king of none. And people who flaunt martial arts experience usually are just talk. Also, about the Pai Gow, that sounds a little fishy, however, he couldve been talking about Pai Lum Kung Fu, though I don't know of any teachers out in Oklahoma. The Moo Duk Kwon Tae Kwon Do thing sounds more plausible.