Personal Martial Arts Mix

[Shorinryu Sensei]

Hey Shorin Ryu Sensei, If u can make it up to Calgary Alberta the Krav School here is starting to have great knife seminars. My friend is an instructor there and he was raving about the guy who taught them, I didn't catch his name but i guess he's an assistant DA from LA and VP of Krav. I guess they have access to dozens of videos of actual stabbings and they analyzed what worked by who lived and who died. Can'y really argue with that. If your interested drop me a line.

 

Calgary is a heck of a lot closer than the East Coast is for me...that's for sure. Around 4-5 hour drive I think. Good excuse to visit our nothern neighbors too, since I haven't been over the border in probably 25 years.

 

It's not going to be this year, but maybe sometime next year might work out. Thanks.

[thaiboxerken]

Does your original karate teach weapons within the first couple of months?

 

What about ground fighting?

[longarm25]

Only if you train it for a very long time, longarm. It also depends on the system of Karate.

 

Its more dependent on the instuctor and as far as time the long you train in any style the more effective it will be

[thaiboxerken]

Most karate schools I know if don't teach any weapons related tactics and techniques until the student has trained for several years.

[longarm25]

Most karate schools I know if don't teach any weapons related tactics and techniques until the student has trained for several years.

 

thats because the majority of schools are driven by profit

[thaiboxerken]

So your school teaches all aspects of combat from the beginning?

[Shorinryu Sensei]

I don't teach using weapons/kobudo until students reach their brown belt level, but we learn defense against weapons (clubs, knives, etc) immediately in class.

[thaiboxerken]

I think it's better to teach weapons first, myself. But I guess different philosophies for different teachers.

[Shorin Ryuu]

Darn...I was going to put a post of "Shorin Ryu" for everything, but I was a little slow in reading this topic...

 

I would argue that it doesn't take a real long time to learn all the aspects you mentioned (striking, grappling, trapping, etc.). At least not in anyway significantly longer than training in a myriad of styles. As far as teaching weapons, some dojo that I have been to teach weapons after a month or so, others wait maybe a year or later. The focus is an integrated approach, not just covering everything at the superficial level. And if that takes time, then so does learning 4 or 5 different arts at the same time.

 

Does my style teach all aspect of combat from the very beginning? Yes and No. Yes, because it does, and no, because the beginner may not be able to process it all completely. Every technique, no matter how basic, holds within it the advanced understanding that goes with it to cover all the aspects of combat. That is why there is more rigidity in placements and positions in the earlier levels within the beginning stages. Not because they are only teaching you the beginning concepts. On the contrary, they are teaching you the advanced concepts, but your understanding of it is only basic. Like my post about jazz earlier, you have to know how to play music in order to jam. You were being taught how to jam all along, but you have to reach a point before you can start.

 

I feel Shorin Ryu encompasses a full system of fighting. Does that stop me from learning others? No. That is merely to enhance my understanding of the principles already within Shorin Ryu, not because they are lacking.

 

As usual, I start out at home plate and end up way out in left field eating a ham sandwich. Oh well.

[Shorinryu Sensei]

Thanks for that input Shorin Ryuu...good to have somebody else that feels the same way I do aboyut the system. I think that if you have/had a good instructor in Shorinryu that knew what they were doing, then yes, it encompasses all of those different aspects nicely. I think most people feel that the older, more traditional systems, are lacking...but that isn't so. All I can vouch for is the system that I practice, and it encompasses everything that I feel a martial arts should....and I've been hooked on it for a long time now.