Personal Martial Arts Mix

[cymry]

Striking - boxing, Wing Chun, Muay Thai, WW2 Combatives

 

Trapping - Wing Chun!

 

Standup grappling - Judo, Muay Thai

 

Takedowns - Judo, Muay Thai, wrestling (various forms)

 

Ground grappling - BJJ, wrestling (various forms)

 

Stick fighting - Arnis, Escrima, various Japanese stick arts

 

Knife fighting - Silat

 

What about you guys?

[thaiboxerken]

I train in all of those, except for Wing Chun, WW2 and "japanese stick arts". I do train in Jun Fan though.

[Shorinryu Sensei]

Striking - boxing, Wing Chun, Muay Thai, WW2 Combatives

 

Trapping - Wing Chun!

 

Standup grappling - Judo, Muay Thai

 

Takedowns - Judo, Muay Thai, wrestling (various forms)

 

Ground grappling - BJJ, wrestling (various forms)

 

Stick fighting - Arnis, Escrima, various Japanese stick arts

 

Knife fighting - Silat

 

What about you guys?

 

OK...here's mine.

 

Trapping -- Shorinryu (incorporated with tuite)

 

Standup grappling --- Shorinryu (called tuite)

 

Takedowns --- Shorinryu (called tuite and others)

 

Ground grappling --- Shorinryu (probably weakest point though)-also tuite.

 

Stick fighting --- Shorinryu (called kobudo)

 

Knife fighting --- Got me here. We do tons of defenses AGAINST a knife attack, but we do no offensive techniques with a knife. Really, I see no reason to learn how to kill somebody with a knife, since I'm not planning on doing so anytime in the future.

[thaiboxerken]

"Really, I see no reason to learn how to kill somebody with a knife, since I'm not planning on doing so anytime in the future."

 

Shouldn't you know how a knife fighter will attack you if you want to defend yourself against such a person? Oh, and you don't have to kill a person with a knife.

[Mu Ryuk]

Striking: Tang Soo Do, Muay Thai, Kyokushin Karate

 

Trapping: Wing Chun

 

Stand Up Grappling: Muay Thai, Judo

 

Ground Grappling: Wrestling, Judo

 

Takedowns: Wrestling, Judo

 

Of these I currently do only Tang Soo Do and the occasional Wing Chun drill, when my Instructor has a whim.

 

I have picked up tidbits of all of these except Kyokushin.

[Shorinryu Sensei]

Shouldn't you know how a knife fighter will attack you if you want to defend yourself against such a person? Oh, and you don't have to kill a person with a knife.

 

I can't argue with that logic, and I agree with you. A knife fighter can only come at you from a limited number of different directions, whereas an unarmed person can come at you in many more directions. We practice defenses against an attack with a knife from high, low and mid levels, and against stabbing movements and cutting movements. Granted, my "attackers" I have in class aren't trained "knife fighters', nor have I seen any systems in my neighborhood (or state) that do teach that particular art, so it's very possible that I'm missing some sort of attack that I haven't been able to visualize so far. Without actually seeing how a trained knife fighter uses his weapon, I can't really say whether or not what I know is sufficient or not. I do believe, however, that against a typical, untrained knife fighter, what we practice would work quite well.

 

And yes, I realize you don't have to kill a person if you strike with a knife. However, just like a gun, you take that chance if you pull it out to use it. There's people on this planet I really don't like, but not enough that I would want to try to kill them, or take the risk of doing so. Wellll...maybe a couple.

 

With that in mind, the first thing I teach my people when fighting a weapon is...DON'T IF YOU CAN DO OTHERWISE!

[thaiboxerken]

I can't argue with that logic, and I agree with you. A knife fighter can only come at you from a limited number of different directions, whereas an unarmed person can come at you in many more directions.

 

Oh, I don't think so. I think it's the opposite, actually, an knife doesn't need power behind it so it can come from very awkward angles that a punch wouldn't do much damage from. You also have to be more wary of your limbs. You can't just cover or "hard" block a knife. Also, a good knife fighter doesn't just use the knife. I think it was Illustrisimo that had more KO's with his empty hand than his knife hand.

 

We practice defenses against an attack with a knife from high, low and mid levels, and against stabbing movements and cutting movements. Granted, my "attackers" I have in class aren't trained "knife fighters', nor have I seen any systems in my neighborhood (or state) that do teach that particular art, so it's very possible that I'm missing some sort of attack that I haven't been able to visualize so far.

 

I think going to some seminars would at least stimulate your imagination. I highly recommend Guro Inosanto or any instructors under him. If you're on the east coast, you can try some Tuhon Gahe seminars as well.

 

Without actually seeing how a trained knife fighter uses his weapon, I can't really say whether or not what I know is sufficient or not. I do believe, however, that against a typical, untrained knife fighter, what we practice would work quite well.

 

That could be true, but I think seeing a trained knife fighter would definitely help.

 

With that in mind, the first thing I teach my people when fighting a weapon is...DON'T IF YOU CAN DO OTHERWISE!

 

Good advice for anyone of any martial art.

[Shorinryu Sensei]

Oh, I don't think so. I think it's the opposite, actually, an knife doesn't need power behind it so it can come from very awkward angles that a punch wouldn't do much damage from. You also have to be more wary of your limbs. You can't just cover or "hard" block a knife. Also, a good knife fighter doesn't just use the knife. I think it was Illustrisimo that had more KO's with his empty hand than his knife hand.

 

Yes, I understand that you have to have more "respect" for a knife than you do a hand of foot , but in the system I practice, the techniques are very close to the same that you'd use with, or without a weapon. Accuracy is more important with a bladed weapon of course. And who's Illustrisimo? I've never heard of him.

I think going to some seminars would at least stimulate your imagination. I highly recommend Guro Inosanto or any instructors under him. If you're on the East coast, you can try some Tuhon Gahe seminars as well.

 

Well, that's all nice to say, but if you'll notice under my name and system to the left, I live in Montana..specifically about 60 miles from Canada, and 70 miles from Idaho, and seminars of any sort are few and far between around here. Of any martial artists of note, the only one I can think of to come to this state (other than the had of my system) in the nearly 30 years I've been training, was Ed Parker about 2 years before he died. And yes, I did attend that seminar. I've taught a number of seminars myself at the request of other sensei, but you don't hear about many (if any) seminars in this area. We have a saying up here that goes something like this. "You can't get anywhere from here". It's pretty close to the truth.

 

That could be true, but I think seeing a trained knife fighter would definitely help.

 

Absolutely in agreement here!

[username9]

Erm.

 

Striking: Shukokai Karate, WTF Taekwon Do

 

Trapping: N/A- Not into Trapping

 

Stand-up Grappling/Ground Grappling....any grappling - Enso Ryu Ju Jitsu - it is pretty much a mongrel art that is based on evolving traditional Ju jitsu- so we take elements of Wrestling, Judo, Aikido Submission fighting and add them into our Ju Jitsu.

 

Everything else - I also study a lot from books and videos - I know it isn't Ideal but I have been doing MA's for 13 years - and i am only 20 so Ican teach myself SOME stuff from books!

 

Anyway - I am always evolving my own style of fighting - not that I teach it or anything - I mean my own way of getting the job done! I'm very much into hybrid training.

[thaiboxerken]

Yes, I understand that you have to have more "respect" for a knife than you do a hand of foot , but in the system I practice, the techniques are very close to the same that you'd use with, or without a weapon.

 

The filipinno martial arts do the same, empty hands use the same angles, however, a slap or knucke to the bicept isn't nearly as nasty as a knife cut or stab to the same place.

Accuracy is more important with a bladed weapon of course. And who's Illustrisimo? I've never heard of him.

 

He was one of Guro Inosanto's Kali instructors.

 

Maybe you'll have the chance to see it and him someday.