kicks to the face now allowed in WTF

[dear john]

Not really, TKD was designed for a national art. Not battlefield.

 

i thought TKD was original designed to fight someone who was on a horse and you are on the ground.

 

like on the battle field.

 

at least this is what i was told?

[47MartialMan]

No, TKD was only developed in the 20th century. A national combined effort for unification. In fact, a lot of TKD forms are influenced by Japanese ones.

[DLopez]

I don't believe that is a fair description of TKD.

 

Yes, TKD came into being after WWII, but the techniques employed didn't just appear overnight. Practically all the principles of TKD existed for centuries before they were collected into the MA called TKD.

 

While it's debatable how much of TKD is Japanese and how much is indigenous Korean martial art, any cursory research into TKD will show that the techniques employed are as old as "martial arts".

 

While it is popular to disparage TKD as being "useless in a real fight" (which, IMO, is still an unproven opinion itself), the one thing that cannot be legitimately claimed about TKD is that it is some sort of new MA, invented just over 50 years ago, and that its use has no historical practical base.

[47MartialMan]

Yes, but I was responding to it being developed for "battlefield" and methods against someone on a horse.

 

And the Japanese Language share the the same language origin as Korea.

 

I think under the term Altaic.

[dear john]

i must do some research, i hate it when someone tells me lies about TKD.

 

my instructors are dumb

[47MartialMan]

No, do not consider info such as lies. Perhaps people only know what they are told. The "Shaolin and Bodhidharma" saga are a prime example.

[dear john]

please explain the whole shoalin and buda thing

[Kicks]

Back on the subject of kicks to the face.

 

WTF rules state that adults are allowed to kick to "Head and neck area at the front and sides but not at the back." Two points are awarded for a kick to the head. And you can kick to knock out your opponent. In fact, if you knock your opponent down and he gets a standing 8 count, you are awarded an additional point. Remember, to score a point you have to hit with "trembling shock" (even to the body), that is, you have to make his body tremble or move.

 

The USTU has a set of Junior Safety rules that fliped-floped a few times over the past few years. This is probably what is causing confusion. There was a time where, under junior safety rules, you could kick to the face, then it was taken away, then reinstated, etc. These are the offical rules as posted on the USTU website:

 

Ages 6 - 11 year olds, all belts: any attack to the head that does not cause injury will result in a warning. An injury will result in a 1 point deduction. If the injured competitor can not continue due to the injury, the attacker is disqualified.

 

For 12 - 13 year old black belts and 12 - 17 year old color belts: kick to face is allowed, but must be light and controlled. If the kick causes a minor injury the attacker will be isued a one point deduction. If the injured competitor can not continue due to the injury, the attacker is disqualified.

 

For 14 - 17 year old black belts: two points are awarded for a kick to the head if it is light contact. No bonus points for a knock down with a count. Excessive contact will be receive the appropriate penalty.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Kicks

Edited October 19, 2004 by Kicks

[battousai16]

y'all can't kick to the back of the head? i thought you could...

 

ach, i suppose you'd know better than i would.