thaiboxerken Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Why do you insist that this person is taking a risk? How do you know this person isn't so good that there is no risk at all? Unless the trick is staged, then there is always a risk. No person is so skilled that they are infallible.Do you not have any capabilities at all that you are just so good at, that there is no possibility of any other outcome than what you intend? I can't think of anything. Do you have any such capabilities? Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung001 Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Do you not have any capabilities at all that you are just so good at, that there is no possibility of any other outcome than what you intend? C'mon, surely you're good at something! Well, as a matter of fact, everytime I hit the snooze button in the morning, I mean every single time... I fall back to sleep for another 9 minutes. I have never failed at that. It took years of practice, but now I never fail. Other than that, I can screw up a lot of things.... even things I'm pretty good at. Like the other day for example, I was swing this nunchuck at my daughter head... Student: "Why did you hit that guy with a chair? Why didn't you use your karate?"Master: "Hitting him with a chair was the only karate I could think of at the time."Lesson: Practice until you don't have to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiboxerken Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 LOL. That's a really good and witty response, foreveryoung!! Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 we're not talking about the same trick. there isn't a line tracking the (crossbow) bolt. this is done on a stage in front of an audience and a line would be clearly seen. the target is an apple. if the bolt is reeled in, i can't see how it would hit the apple, especially at the speed at which it happens. i think you'd have to see the one i'm talking about. and for the second bit. but is the kid still in danger if the guy is effectively swinging the nunchaku three/four inches in front of his nose consistantly? post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiboxerken Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 You'd be surprised about lines, they're used because they are very hard to see. And, a line can reel in the bolt at about the same speed that a bow can shoot it. Magicians are really good at these tricks. The kid is still in danger because the chuck could slip, the guy could slip, the kid could lean forward a bit much in anticipation.. I don't think this is a really big deal, just a stupid idea. Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung001 Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 I don't think this is a really big deal, just a stupid idea. I agree that it really isn't that big of a deal. It just irks me as a father to see kids put in a position like that. If I really think about it, however, I'm sure I could come up with some pretty stupid things that I've done with my kids. That's why I don't want to think about it.... then I'd feel hypocritical. So, as long as I can maintain this constant state of ignorance, then life is good..... Student: "Why did you hit that guy with a chair? Why didn't you use your karate?"Master: "Hitting him with a chair was the only karate I could think of at the time."Lesson: Practice until you don't have to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kicks Posted October 2, 2004 Author Share Posted October 2, 2004 Anybody out there pretty good with nunchaku? Ya gotta laugh at yourself when ever you goof up and smack yourself, huh? I guess it's like that whenever you make a mistake and hurt yourself. Or someone. huh? when you create the world's largest trailer park, you're going to have tornadoes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLopez Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 It's not only inconvenient, but impractical. The child will not grow up to be a productive citizen if they are simply locked in the house for their entire life. Who said lock them up in the house? I just said that based on statistics, it's equally, if not more dangerous to put a child in a car and drive on the street as this nunchaku demo vid is.Now I have to look up evidence to support YOUR claims? Cop out answer. That's a pretty weak way to try and win an argument. Every night on the 10 o'clock news, I hear about deadly auto accidents. I've yet to hear of a single death by nunchakus, or even facial disfigurements. Now, I must ask, why would you expect me to prove that riding in an automobile is dangerous, while not having to deliver the same proof yourself about the nunchaku demonstration? I can play that game too... until you show me the proof that something like that nunchaku demo is dangerous, I refuse to believe it the same way you refuse to believe automobile travel is dangerous. You see how your argument goes nowhere? You can do better. Shoot, all I have to do is read the daily newspaper about all the auto accidents that occurred the day before to support my position. So far, all you've provided is emotional reaction to a video.What value is done here, entertainment? I don't agree that entertainment like this is really a good reason to risk smacking a child in the face with a deadly weapon. What risk? You keep saying this guy is taking a risk, but you haven't proven there's any risk. You don't know anything about this guy's level of skill, and I'm sorry, but your assertion that "No person is so skilled that they are infallible." is just wrong. Maybe (most likely) you've not witnessed them, but acts like this nunchaku demo would have been downright boring a few years back in the circus. Believe it or not, I've seen more amazing feats of skill than that performed by children. I'm sorry if you never have. They were amazing! Back to the risk thing... Now if you mean that if YOU tried it, there is risk, then okay, you've given me enough to go on that I believe the doubts you have in your abilities are justified. Seriously though, whether you or I possess such skill is irrelevant in this discussion. Somehow though, you insist on transposing your shortcomings onto the person in the video, (and everyone else it appears). To refuse to believe that some people possess such a high level of skill is, well, ignorant, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you feel. I don't know how to put it any other way.The kid is still in danger because the chuck could slip, the guy could slip, the kid could lean forward a bit much in anticipation. And someone can run a red light, or an 18-wheeler might lose it's load, or... Sorry, not good enough. DeanDahn Boh Nim - Black-Brown BeltKuk Sool Won"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow." - James Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung001 Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 To refuse to believe that some people possess such a high level of skill is, well, ignorant, no matter how uncomfortable it makes you feel. I don't know how to put it any other way. I don't know. It seems to me, IMHO that to believe that any human is infallable is a bit on the ignorant side. "Trust me, nothing can go wrong." seem like famous last words to me. Student: "Why did you hit that guy with a chair? Why didn't you use your karate?"Master: "Hitting him with a chair was the only karate I could think of at the time."Lesson: Practice until you don't have to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLopez Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 I don't know. It seems to me, IMHO that to believe that any human is infallable is a bit on the ignorant side. Yes, perhaps. But only until it is actually witnessed. Once you have seen it, there is no longer the need to try to guess if it's possible or not. DeanDahn Boh Nim - Black-Brown BeltKuk Sool Won"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow." - James Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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