thaiboxerken Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 The Masked Magician was the performer on Secrets of Magic. Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47MartialMan Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 The Masked Magician was the performer on Secrets of Magic. That is what I wanted to clarify. Did not know the "title" of the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLopez Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 (edited) Well, since the crusade is picking up steam, let me toss this out for consideration... All these arguements like "she loved him and had faith in him", and "she chose to participate", can be applied to the children riding in evil rolling death traps called SUV's, minvans, and cars, no? Children love their parents, and have faith in them, no? As far as having a choice goes, children really have no choice when it comes to being strapped in their car seat while their irresponsible parents court danger and death by driving out on the roads and highways, right? Sure, all these arguments "sound good" on the surface, but I find it funny how they are selectively applied to certain folks doing certain things. Gee, I guess sometimes it's OK to put your child in danger, as long as it's something that is "the norm", and there are some people who believe they possess the wisdom to dictate to everyone else when it is okay and not okay to put your child in danger. Things that make you go hmmmmm. Edited October 1, 2004 by DLopez DeanDahn Boh Nim - Black-Brown BeltKuk Sool Won"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow." - James Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 and that was exactly tommarker's point. the fact it was a child on the receiving end might shock but the clip was of the final 'event' as it were. what you didn't see was the preparation behind/before the clip. chances are, just like it was with the wife and the crossbow, the kid was never in any risk of harm. incidentally, the crossbow trick i am talking about is kinda old and i have to say that considering the sheer mass of hair the wife had, i would have to say that there was quite a buffer zone between apple and actual head. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47MartialMan Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 I see you changed your "avatar" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiboxerken Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Do you have statistics of car-accident deaths vs nunchuk demonstration deaths, Lopez? Does a nunchuk demonstration accomplish anything of value? I mean, forcing one's kid to ride in a vehicle transports that child from one location to another to get necessary deeds accomplished. Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiboxerken Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 i would have to say that there was quite a buffer zone between apple and actual head. I guess you don't know the trick. Let's just say that their is no way for the magician to miss shooting the apple. This nunchaku demo doesn't seem to be a magician's trick, but it could be. I doubt it though. If it's not simple trickery, then I would say that the kids face had a good chance of getting smacked. Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLopez Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Does a nunchuk demonstration accomplish anything of value? I mean, forcing one's kid to ride in a vehicle transports that child from one location to another to get necessary deeds accomplished. Why can't you leave the child at home? Surely there are countless ways to arrange not having to transport your child in a vehicle. It may not be convenient, but I guess that means theres a level of inconvenince, above which makes putting your child in danger OK? Nope, I don't buy that. As far as accomplishing anything of value, that is a subjective opinion on your part. You might not find anything of value in such a demonstration, but others may. As far as statistics go, no I don't have the relative statisitics, but do you honestly believe I'm making up how deadly riding in a car is? Look it up on your home state's government website if you doubt it. It's public information. BTW - I've not heard of a single nunchaku demonstration death that I can recall - child or adult. DeanDahn Boh Nim - Black-Brown BeltKuk Sool Won"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die tomorrow." - James Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Monkey Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 i'm not entirely sure if we are actually talking about the same trick. it is possible for him to miss and he does miss on occasions. all he does then is reload another bolt. i can't remember their name. the wife rings a little bell to help with the line-up if that helps to identify the couple. in anycase, no. i haven't seen the show. maybe you could explain how it works. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47MartialMan Posted October 1, 2004 Share Posted October 1, 2004 Oh well, a child can be in "danger" from the moment it is conceived. Poor thing, it was in "danger" when the exterior air, temperature, etc., was exposed to it straight out of the womb. Wait, it was in "danger", if the nurse on duty dropped it. It was in "danger" if the formula making company, made a error with its product. More-it was in "danger" when its mother held it in the hospital bed. It is in danger in the home, if someone leaves the room temperature in either extreme. It is in danger taking a bath. It is in danger walking to school. It is in danger at school-rulers, pens, pencils,etc. Another thing with cars. The parent is not consciously "putting their child in danger". They are simply transporting their child. They (most of them should) are concerned with safety, i.e. seats, seat belts, speed, etc. But if they throw out safety, than they are no better than the "cup man" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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