ASE Kenpo Karate

[Rhino]

Hey all, I'm looking to continue my studies of karate in Columbia MO due to a relocation. There is no "reputable" Shorinryu intructors near me, but i did find this on google.

 

AKenpo Karate

 

705 Vandiver Dr. Suite E

 

Columbai, MO 65202 USA

 

573-875-3676

 

Tim Fancher

 

Anyone ever heard of it or the instructor?? Are there similarities to traditional Okinawan karate?

[Shorinryu Sensei]

I found this info through Google (gotta love it! )

 

Tim Fancher, 3rd Deg. Black Belt

 

Style: Ed Parker's American Kenpo

 

Website: http://www.columbiakenpo.com/

 

Interesting...you can pay for classes afrom that website too.

 

It looks like there's a fair amount of Tracy Kenpo in MO also. From what I've heard, I'd avoid that if I were you, but Ed Parker's Kenpo is OK.

 

As for similarites between Okinawan Karate and Kenpo...sure, there will be some, but not a lot from what I've seen. Both use shorter, more natural stances, kata are totally different. Application of techniques are similar, but execution will be different. Same, but different. Like a Buick is a car..so is a Yugo. The same, but different.

[delta1]

It looks like there's a fair amount of Tracy Kenpo in MO also. From what I've heard, I'd avoid that if I were you, but Ed Parker's Kenpo is OK.

 

Good advice! I don't know anything about ASE Kenpo, but check it out. They advertise as a practical self defense system. If it is a practical EPAK school, they will spar and often with different levels of contact. CHeck to see if they offer some form of grappling- either as a seperate part of the carriculum or extrapolated from the stand up techniques.

 

EPAK, as SS said, is from the same basic family, and bears many resemblances to Okinawan Kenpo. Both have a lot of flow, but EPAK has more hard moves, generally.

 

Tracy's is probably much closer to Okinawan systems. They are all flow. Their problem is (in my opinion) that they have little understanding, and their emphasis on flow sometimes detracts from techniques that were not designed to be used with uninterupted flow. The Tracy's started with Ed Parker, but left to more aggressively market the system long before it was complete enough (according to Mr. Parker). They did incorporate some Okinawan and Chinese forms intom their system after they left, but again without a good understanding of what they were doing.

[parkerlineage]

Who is this Tracy you speak of? The name sounds familiar, but I'm not quite sure I can figure out why.

 

Parker is the only way to go, says a very unbiased source.

[kempocos]

In Missouri you have Taikia Oyata, A true Okinawian master. If any of these are near you I would go here. https://www.kushu.com for more info on this style of KEMPO.

 

International RyuTe® Renmei Headquarters

 

Taika Seiyu Oyata

 

19105 E. 30th St.

 

Independence, MO 64057

 

816-795-8308

 

RyuShuKan

 

Academy of RyuTe®Kempo

 

Mike Minor

 

7519 N. Oak Tfwy.

 

Gladstone, MO 64118

 

816-436-2212

 

email homepage

 

Gossett Karate Academy

 

Bill Gossett

 

Liberty Landing Shopping Center

 

117 N. Main

 

Liberty, MO 64068

 

816-781-7414

 

St. Louis Area Ryukyu Kempo

 

Robby Collingwood

 

1608-B Brandon Park Drive

 

Manchester, MO 63021

 

(636) 225-1786

[parkerlineage]

Kempo is a totally different animal from Kenpo. I know nothing about Kempo, so I won't say which is better. But, I just thought I would clarify for Rhino.

[delta1]

Who is this Tracy you speak of? The name sounds familiar, but I'm not quite sure I can figure out why.

 

http://www.tracyskarate.com/

 

The Tracy brothers left Ed Parker in the early days of the systems development. They wanted to more aggressively market the system, while Ed Parker did not think it was quite ready. They added some things from CMAs, I think from Jimmy Woo (don't remember for sure). Their system is Parker based, but it is early Parker, and they do quite a few things different. It is a good system, but it lacks the deapth of understanding and effectiveness that is in EPAK.

[Rhino]

Thanks to all you guys, it's great to have found a forum like this.

 

Just clarify for me however, what is EPAK?

[Rhino]

Also, I tried going to the website, it's not working, but I did check the site out for ASE Kenpo in Springfield MO. Looks like they also offer Brazilian Ju Jitsu.

[Shane]

Web sites are cool but dont judge the book by its cover go check it out. See if they offer a free lesson and take it if they do if not, then ask to sit in and watch a few of the classes to see if its for you.