yireses Posted September 22, 2004 Posted September 22, 2004 Is there a complit Chinese system?? I mean, at the begining a Shaolin monk had to study day and night for more than 10, 12 evan 30 years to be considerd a teacher. Today u just go to a shcool 2 day a week and in 3, 4 or 5 years your a teacher and if you want to do something diffrent you make your on shcool. The knowing of Violence and living in no violence brings peace.Shaolin Chuan Fa
wcnavstar Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 Your question should be " Are there any people training day and night for nearly 30 years before becoming a teacher" Also, where did you get your info that says it took a Shaolin Monk 10 to 30 years practicing a style to actually have the chance to teach. Believe it or not, it is through teaching others that we in turn become better martial artists, with a good foundation of course. And a good foundation rarley takes 10 to 30 years. Not to mention that becoming a teacher in no way signifies the end of ones training. Many of the younger teachers which I have met in my travels still train with their instructors or with new ones... I think Americans and even others outside of Asia put to much thought into what makes a Black Belt. Go to Japan for yourself and you will see the worth of a 1st degree black belt... "We work with being, but non-being is what we use" Tao Te Ching
KungFuMan Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 wcnavstar, Agreed. You don't need 10 to 30 years of trainning to become a teacher. Eventhough three years to become an instructor is also a little too much going the other way, especially in kung fu styles that are inherently complicated and long term. This is not to say that one can't assist the instructor in his school during the classes. I do also believe that to really UNDERSTAND the style and 'become it`one has to study 10 + years. I also agree that teaching MA's will take your understanding of your chosen style to a higher level. As for the question of wether there is a complete chinese system the answer is yes. Most if not all major kung fu styles are complete, in that their training covers hand, foot, joint manipulation and grappling techniques. Of course how much each area is emphasized will depend on the individual style and (the knowledge/authenticity of?) the instructor. KFM Only time and commitment will make your Traditional "style" good and give you real knowledge. "Marry" your chosen system as opposed to just flirting with it. Make it your partner for life and you will see how well and how complete it really is.
47MartialMan Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 Any martial art training is not "complete" ( I think this is what you were saying). Anyone can be a instructor. There is a difference from a McDojo instructor to a qualifying experience one.
stonecrusher69 Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 Most traditional styles are a complete system because they have been tested over many generations of there effectiveness.I don't think it's the styles tht counts but more the M.A skill that's important. http://www.youtube.com/user/sifumcilwrath"When the student is ready the master will appear"
JerryLove Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 Most traditional styles are a complete system because they have been tested over many generations of there effectiveness. So I can take my Karate' and it will help me fire an M1A2 Abrams tank? Perhaps there are some incomplete parts of any art? https://www.clearsilat.com
battousai16 Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 your school DOSEN'T teach you how to operate a M1A2 Abrams tank!?! psh, i think that says more about YOUR school... "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
Drunken Monkey Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 hehe guns for show, knives for a pro. jerry plays with knives. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
battousai16 Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 ah, but i recall reading he plays with guns, too... which would imply that the next step is, well, the tank, of course. i'm on the harrier jet, myself "I hear you can kill 200 men and play a mean six string at the same time..."-Six String Samurai
Drunken Monkey Posted September 23, 2004 Posted September 23, 2004 well, you remember what leon says. the better you are, the closer you get to your target. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
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