The mind.....

[47MartialMan]

Speaking of which, I was in a "flea market". A lady, in her late 40's or early 50's, was walking around with a teenage male. I was standing looking a a Zenith Allegro and reminiscing.

 

They had walked up and she smiled and said she had "one of those". (The Zenith Allegro). The teenager asked "What's that round thing on top?" The lady replied- "That's were they played albums" (to attempt to speak of in the teenage terms, she added) "Something like CD"s now days".

 

The teenager replied "Why is it so big and how to they eject?"

[Muaythaiboxer]

gilbert im a little confused you talk a great deal about how you study aikido and you use the aikido philosophy in nearly every post yet you also take boxing is that not totaly contraditing the aikido philosophy? im not trying to start a big argument or any thing but i just saw that and i wondered.

[KUNTA KINTE]

to distract your opponents mind

 

when some grabs your shirt really tight(an example)

 

and he is strong and you cant move his hand to get him in a grappling technique. give him a little distraction with you hand or a little fake kick to distract the mind and energy he was sending to the arm which he had you grabbing with. the mind will be distracted and the technique can be applied easily because he loosened up the grip and he didnt even notice.

 

 

I use stuff like that for wrestling like claping in some ones face they blink and go WTF then I shoot a double leg. Or are coach showed us what he did he jumped and did a crouch 360 and shot a low single(it makes your opponent hesitate and got what the hell was that?)...LOL it worked

[pineapple]

why give a fake kick when you can kick for real?

whoa....

 

what's going on today?

 

so many people agreeing with me!

 

If someone grabbed me, I would lock his hands onto me, use a low kick to distract his mind off of his arms, then attack his elbow.

 

Drunken Monkey, you're the man on this one!

[Muaythaiboxer]

i would use a thai roundhouse it would get them to let go. or shoot a single or double leg.

[ShirKhan]

The best feint or fake, IMO, is a mindset that either communicates to an opponent that you are not a threat, or provokes him to overconfidence, or that produces a state of fear or being startled that freezes him in place momentarily...

 

A feint with the hand, an experienced fighter can see through, but making an opponent reach the wrong conclusion about you, is more difficult for him to see through because for him to rethink his first impressions, is an act of doubting his own mind or his own conclusions, and he has to mentally stop for a moment to do this...like a computer rebooting...

 

A simple example. You are walking down a dark alley and you are confronted by three assailants walking towards you. If you puff yourself up, make yourself look tall and go forward with hands ready, you collide with three peole who are braced to recieve you. BUT if you walk along with your eyes on the ground like a distracted inattentive person, or even pretend you are intoxicated or a deranged person talking to themselves, AND THEN at the last moment collide with them strongly, you can go right through them...you may even find they have their eyes closed and their hands held in front of them in surprise. You may only have a few seconds, but that's enough to put down whoever you sense to be the alpha of the group.

 

I know one person who if he encountered physical conflict would take on the appearance of a mad person and say clearly "you raped my sister" just before collision...if an angry person comes to you and says "I'm going to kill you", well, most people who are prepared for life are prepared to hear that, and they brace themselves for the encounter. But a mad person closing with you saying "You raped my sister"...your mind tries to compute it, you wonder who he thinks you are, you might even try to tell him he's crazy or he's got it wrong...all this amounts to being frozen in place or unprepared at a moment that they run over you. (He doesn't even have a sister.)

 

It's not necessarily a feint but it is very tricky...if you're coming for someone, and they know you're coming for them, they're preparing themselves and they see you walking forward with your hands at your sides...they're wondering what you're going to do with your hands or your feet...and you just drive a simple shoulder thrust or hip thrust with all your weight to their center mass and drive them flying. Especially someone who thinks he's a boxer...they put their hands up, and in their mind they are wondering why your hands are down, and then wonder how they ended up on their back with your foot on their neck. Shoulder and hip thrusts are pretty ignored by a lot of MAists as weapons but the old masters swore by them...there's even the story of the old Tai Chi master who used to go cow-tipping to practice his shoulder thrust...except he did it while they were awake ...

 

It's also interesting that if you walk to a person with your eyes on their eyes, they're immediately defensive and guarded, but if your eyes are pointed elsewhere, you can have their hands on them before they even know you're there. A lot of people on these boards claim to be bouncers, I did work as a bouncer for a while and I noticed when someone was acting up, they would always look for me to see if I was watching them or coming for them (almost like a little kid trying to get Daddy's attention)_...if I looked at them, they were ready to mess with me and make my job harder, but if they always found me looking elsewhere, I could be walking right up to kissing distance without it really registering on them, and I've got my anchor lock on them and I'm dragging the body outdoors before they can say "wassup..."

 

There's a lot communicated by body language, and if you can make a person believe what you're saying to some extent you can control what they do for a brief time. To some extent your body only reflects what's going on in your mind, so you've got to believe in what you're doing and you've got to empty your mind...to some degree an empty mind makes you less visible, as well...I'm getting into thin air at this point. But, you can ask any hunter, if you're out for blood and looking through all the brush and bushes, there isn't a deer to be found, but stop for lunch and read a book, and they walk right up to you and try to eat the sandwich out of your lap...well, there's a reason for that. Similarly, when I used to go spearfishing in Florida, if I looked at a fish with the intention of shooting him, he would always drift right out of range. But if I looked at the rocks next to him with no thought of fish in my mind, then I could almost reach out and grab him. In an MA application I call this the "cloud" approach because I'll approach the opponent with the thought in mind that I'm nothing, nothing but air, nothing but a drifting cloud, as relaxed as can be...and when I run into him it's almost like he's surprised I'm there. He knew I was THERE, but for some reason the threat didn't register. Almost like if my thinking "I'm nothing" was somehow shared by his mind that this approaching person is just nothing, nothing to worry about. I've been told it's a body language thing, a mind thing, a psychic thing, I have no idea it may be a mix of a lot of factors. But try it, play with it, see what you find out for yourself.

 

That's all I got...take what helps you and flush the rest.

[Gilbert]

gilbert im a little confused you talk a great deal about how you study aikido and you use the aikido philosophy in nearly every post yet you also take boxing is that not totaly contraditing the aikido philosophy? im not trying to start a big argument or any thing but i just saw that and i wondered.

 

 

 

I was a boxer I barely left boxing. Now I practice fulltime and only Aikido.

 

I kinda used to mix it up but not anymore(which really helped and still does). Now I understand many things on the human mind and how energy works. It really is quite simple to learn but hard to master some of it. But then again Aikido has no end. you keep learning and learning.

[busling]

ShirKhan

 

Along the lines of distracting your opponent, with a confusing statement/question. I have been told that just before conflict, it is a good idea to ask your opponent "didn't we good to school together?"

 

It a question that will make most people think, maybe I know this guy? Do I really want to punch him?

 

I have never tried it, but it seems to ring a chord with the raping the sister statement, as a confusing line that gives you a small advantage.

[Muaythaiboxer]

thats smart ive never thought of that one good way to avoid confrontation.

[Taku-Shimazu]

I was reading a Ninjutsu book and it mentioned about a group of Ninja training in Japan at night and the author said he felt what he thought was his sparring partner closing his eyes with his fingertips, and then he fell to the ground and landed on his back. What actually happened is that his partner had thrown grass at his eyes to distract him the moved in and sweeped him.

 

True story. By the way the book was: The Ninja and their secret fighting arts - Stephen someone