KI internal energy.....

[47MartialMan]

Does that include ki/chi?

 

In the most pure sense: "yes". Though you are going to have to put out candles in airtight rooms more than hit people hard.

 

Please Explain?

[47MartialMan]

https://www.randi.org That is where you can claim your million if you can show that Ki (the "energy" that flows through people) really exists.

 

Anyone can bend a spear, it takes no Ki to do that, it's simply a trick.

 

Thanks for the link.

[JerryLove]

Please Explain?

 

From my understanding of his offer, you will eithe rhave to do something he cannot reproduce, or something he cannot rationalize.

 

Assume for a moment, that unbending arm is a Chi trick... prove it's Chi. You can't without coming into a definition of Chi that can be said "that's just a word for known stuff".

 

Any good skeptic knows you can't put out a candle with your mind... that *should* qualify as "supernatural" for Randi's purposes.

 

I've known a couple people I respect tell me they've done it... but I'll believe it when I see it.

[47MartialMan]

So you haven't seen it?

[thaiboxerken]

I wouldn't be satisfied with seeing it, I'd have to see it under controlled conditions where trickery was guarded against.

[47MartialMan]

I wouldn't be satisfied with seeing it, I'd have to see it under controlled conditions where trickery was guarded against.

 

So, I guess I can say that you are kind of a skeptic?

[thaiboxerken]

I'm not kind of a skeptic, I AM a skeptic.

[47MartialMan]

Same here. I keep researching the subject. Going to demos (big joke). See my other posts on this subject.

[JEM618]

Same here. I keep researching the subject. Going to demos (big joke). See my other posts on this subject.

 

Seems like we are caught up in a difference of definitions of 'ki'. As I have stated before, I do not think it's something super natural or magical, just something that exists in all of us and is something we can each develop to its fullest potential. From your posts, seems like you've been doing research for decades... Save yourself some aggravation, hop on a plane and come to Japan for a few days. Visit a couple of dojos, see what they are doing and formulate your opinion from first hand experience. I’ve read that you have been to many demos and have been refused to participate or test what is being demonstrated, which is truly sad. Here in Japan, all questions and challenges are willingly accepted. PM me if you are serious about you research….

[JerryLove]

So you haven't seen it?

 

Nope, so I remain skeptical of it.

I wouldn't be satisfied with seeing it, I'd have to see it under controlled conditions where trickery was guarded against.

It depends on who and what. If I'm sitting at Carrabas with some martial arts instructor, and he says "watch this" and puts out the candle 3 tables away, I'm not goaing to assume he knew where lunch would be in advance and setup a trick at Carrabbas.