JerryLove Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 The Amazing Randi has offered that to anoyone that can prove (to his satisfaction) the existance of "the supernatural". https://www.clearsilat.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47MartialMan Posted September 27, 2004 Share Posted September 27, 2004 The Amazing Randi has offered that to anoyone that can prove (to his satisfaction) the existance of "the supernatural". Does that include ki/chi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Jules Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Good post Jem.....and Thai....like MM said...where ? ~Master Jules......aka "The Sandman""I may be a trained killer......but Im really a nice guy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM618 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 The Amazing Randi has offered that to anoyone that can prove (to his satisfaction) the existance of "the supernatural". Does that include ki/chi? No, it doesn't include ki/chi, as they are natural, not supernatural. They wouldn't qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47MartialMan Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Natural? Like a myterious force that can have someone bend a spear? I wonder where is the amaxzing randi's site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEM618 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 I'd have to agree with the others, such feats are possible through conditioning and cannot be contributed to 'ki' per say. However, one could infer ‘ki’ is used to overcome the fear or logical belief that such things are not possible. What I might add is that ‘ki’ training teaches us not to base our fear and reaction on our perceptions or conventional beliefs. Assume you are 5’10” 175 lbs. NOT knowing anything about them: If you were to face off with a guy the size of Bob Sapp you would probably be pretty scared. On the other hand, if you were to face off with a guy the size of Royce Gracie, you may not be as nervous. Our conventional beliefs are engrained in such a way that we automatically fear some one who is bigger than us. When Gracie faces off with someone the size of Sapp, size is not an issue. He remains calm. While other dance around the ring with nervous energy, he calmly stands there with his ‘game face’. If you dedicate your life to something, and believe in yourself, you can accomplish a lot, I think. The same hold true for bending a spear, or the other displays of martial prowess. Most of us, if we put out minds to it could achieve similar feats. What stops us is the convention belief that it is too dangerous or impossible, so we never start. Breaking through that barrier of conventional thought is the key to achieving great height in any arena, not just martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47MartialMan Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 The spear is a prop. Not actual mind set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiboxerken Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 "Ki is nothing more the combining your mental and physical strength " Then why call it Ki, why not call it confidence or attitude? Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaiboxerken Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 https://www.randi.org That is where you can claim your million if you can show that Ki (the "energy" that flows through people) really exists. Anyone can bend a spear, it takes no Ki to do that, it's simply a trick. Just kick 'em, they'll understand.- Me Apprentice Instructor under Guro Inosanto in Jun Fan Gung Fu and Filipinno Martial arts.Certified Instructor of Frank Cucci's Linxx system of martial arts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryLove Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Does that include ki/chi? In the most pure sense: "yes". Though you are going to have to put out candles in airtight rooms more than hit people hard. https://www.clearsilat.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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