anybody hear of Dan Zan Ryu Zenyo Bujutsu

[White Warlock]

I noticed your instructor really didn't answer the question.

[dear john]

i didnt ask professor herb

 

i asked the instructor who usually teaches me. and yes it was a generalized answer, but it helps a little until i can talk to the master instructor.

I find the name very interesting. It translates as "Sandal Wood Mountain System of Efficient Martial Arts"

 

i forgot about that post,

 

yes that sounds close.

[Sasori_Te]

I'm also curious as to how Japanese words are being used to express Tibetan origins. I'm not knocking Professor Lague's credentials anymore if they are as he states them. I am questioning the usage of the name, especially the term bujutsu. Why not just jutsu? as this also means martial art, but is more directly related to empty hand arts. Also, please don't forget to ask him if he knows Dave McNeill.

[dear john]

the art is basically japanese, but professor has spent some time studying tibetan MA's and alot od philosiphy. that is what we have most from tibetan, philosiphy. we even have some guy from tibet, he was in the newspaper and everything. he teaches old style yoga.

 

i should be seeing him tommorrow but no promises.

[Sasori_Te]

What I'm curious about is that the words used don't have anything to do with Tibet. Is he just using implications that the Tibetan arts have made his art more efficient or what I don't understand how the name refers to Tibet.

[dear john]

okay so i kinda forgot to ask about Dave Mcneil but my officail answer for the name thing was that professor learned things from all around and decided to add the name in japanese because he realized that what he was teaching was something more the Dan Zan Ryu and to call it just that would be missleading. this is his own personal style. all of dan zan ryu and the additions of his own stuff brought from outside it. the name was never tranlated from tibetan to japanese, although we have tibetan style and philosiphy the name was simply added to show that there is a difference in style. from what i have heard, the tibetan part adds a certain part of jujitsu that Dan Zan Ryu lacked. so i guess yes it is believed to have made the art better, more effiecent.

[Sasori_Te]

Okay, that answers that question. Thank you. I'm now curious about the added teachings. What is different?

[dear john]

im not allowed to go into too much detail

 

but i can tell you

 

1. certain strikes were added.

 

2. our warm up exercises are way different.

 

3. the philosiphy on fighting and how to live is definately visisble.

 

4. onm top of our throws certain techniques have been added to aid them.

 

5. foot work is different.

 

the other insructos told me that after we broke off from AJJF professor opened them up to a whole nother level of stuff.

[Sasori_Te]

You're not allowed to tell?? By whom and why not??

[TexasJujitsu]

I'm suprised that since he broke off from the AJJF and modified the original art taught by Prof. Okazaki that he still uses Danzan Ryu in 'title' for what you are learning.

 

Not that it is necessarily a horrible thing, but usually they change the name to something completely different out of respect for the original style. For example, when Wally Jay split off from AJJF and created his own style based on Danzan Ryu he called it Small Circle Jujitsu.