47MartialMan Posted September 19, 2004 Posted September 19, 2004 Ok, whats is the diffrence, besides the spelling,if any: Iaido per Iaijutsu Kendo per Kenjutsu Karate per Karate Do Naginata Do per Naginata jutsu Aikido per Aikijutsu Tae Kwon Do per Tae Kyon Shaolin per Shaolin Si per Sil lum Sanchen, per Sanchin Zen per Chen to name a few.....
cross Posted September 19, 2004 Posted September 19, 2004 Iaido per Iaijutsu Kendo per Kenjutsu Karate per Karate Do Naginata Do per Naginata jutsu Aikido per Aikijutsu Basically ones with jutsu after them focus more towards combat and ones with do after them focus more on perfection of character.
47MartialMan Posted September 19, 2004 Author Posted September 19, 2004 Good point, but are "both" the same ground/methods of fightng/defense?
Drunken Monkey Posted September 19, 2004 Posted September 19, 2004 Shaolin per Shaolin Si per Sil lum not a lot. one is a matter of subject. the other is a matter of spelling. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
gcav Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 Aikido per Aikijutsu Eventhough Aikido was born out of Aikijutsu, these two systems are different in philosophy and physical technique. Aikido and Aikijutsu have the same wrist locks, traps, throws, redirection of force techniques, etc, etc., Aikijutsu has hand strikes and kicks. These techniques were removed by the founder of Aikido during its creation. Aikijutsu is more combative in nature. Train like your life depends on it....Because it does.
SevenStar Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 arts with the jutsu suffix are koryu, or classical japanese arts. They denote styles that were used pre meiji era - combat styles. the do suffix denotes styles post meiji and reflect the art more as a lifestyle than a battlefield art. They have the same basis, but quite natrually, the fighting methods/techniques will differ somewhat. tae kwon do and tae kyon are two different styles completely, if I'm not mistaken. zen, chen, cha'an, etc. dialectual/language differences.
cross Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 Good point, but are "both" the same ground/methods of fightng/defense? Basically the techniques which are taught are the same just the focus of the techniques is different. Like in kata, for the techniques of a do kata the focus is more on making them look good and the kata of a jutsu is more about learning to apply them in combat.
47MartialMan Posted September 20, 2004 Author Posted September 20, 2004 Shaolin per Shaolin Si per Sil lum not a lot. one is a matter of subject. the other is a matter of spelling. Matter of subject? Per all of them are the same subject but different ways of spelling them?
AngelaG Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 I am pretty sure that Karate-jutsu is quite different form Karate-do. From one of the centres I visited their Karate-Jutsu was lot more similar to BJJ in style, and nothing like the Karate-do I do. There was lot of grappling, no kata, no marching up and down. It was basically fighting/grappling/submission stuff for the whole lesson. Whether this applies to all karate-jutsu I have no idea, but I would suspect that sometimes it's all down to what the Chief Instructor decided sounds best, and that one karate-jutsu club need not be like another, and one karate-do club need not be like another etc. Tokonkai Karate-do Instructorhttp://www.karateresource.com Kata, Bunkai, Articles, Reviews, History, Uncovering the Myths, Discussion Forum
Drunken Monkey Posted September 20, 2004 Posted September 20, 2004 same subject but different ways of spelling them? not quite. when you say 'shaolin' you are talking about shaolin in general. i.e that particular 'chain' of temples, teachings, that sort of thing. when you say 'shaolin tzi' (my romanisation), you are talking about the actual temple building. that is the correct grammer. in most cases, when spoken, most people omit the 'tzi' part. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
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