ShotokanKid Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 The thing that matters isn't the style. It's like everyone says, attitude, etc "What we do in life, echoes in eternity.""We must all fear evil men. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men."
47MartialMan Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 But in some circumstances, a style, oer its particular method and situation, has the advatange application.
White Warlock Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Attitude isn't even remotely enough. I've met plenty of people with attitude that landed flat on their face. It's conditioning and the manner in which you practice. If you're lazy and base the majority of your training on 'theory,' you're going to end up with a wake-up call when in a real life confrontation. If you practice with intensity and subject yourself to real, or near real incidents, and full-on application of your techniques, you're going to be far more capable of handling a real life confrontation. Still not prepared, for nobody can be prepared for a real life confrontation, but you can be more capable. JKD, specifically, isn't about all the cute 'jumping' that dapp mentioned. While mainly an approach to study, there is the underlying 'intercepting fist' concept associated with it. Also, many instructors teach a modified form of 'jun fan do,' Lee's earlier system before introducing jkd. In fact, jun fan do is often misrepresented as jkd. In the end, as dapp mentioned, Lee did abandon jkd, as well as close his schools. The way of the intercepting fist... was a way after all. Quoting myself on something i wrote awhile back here:Bruce Lee went through some changes. He initially followed wing chun stringently, then modified it and adopted techniques from other systems and created Jun Fan Do (named after himself, Jun Fan). During this time, he held to the belief that actions could dictate a conflict. Later in life, he created Jeet Kune Do (way of the intercepting fist), which was based on the idea that one could rely wholey on muscle memory to 'intercept' any attack before it is committed. Jeet kune do was entirely reactionary, where the attack and defense were one and the same. Such a system was very effective in countering, but there were nonetheless some inherent weaknesses, one of which being no closure. Even later in life, Mr. Lee came upon a significant revelation. He described it as "no way, as way" and compared a true master as being "like water." Essentially, he went from techniques, to muscle memory, to adaption. Adaption is that of having both mind and body in perfect harmony, where all that you know becomes all that you do (although, not all that you are), and if someone were to attack you in a way you had never encountered, you would now know that one way... instantly, and adapt it to all that you do, thus countering and then closing. "When you are able to take the keys from my hand, you will be ready to drive." - Shaolin DMV TestIntro
jarrettmeyer Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 Essentially, he went from techniques, to muscle memory, to adaption. And to give you an idea of Mr. Lee's dedication, everything I've found pretty much says 10,000 repetitions before technique becomes permanent muscle memory. And from 10,000 to 100,000 repetitions before it becomes automatic response. If I maintain my current training regimen, I'll know pinan shodan around 2031! It's all about having goals Jarrett Meyer"The only source of knowledge is experience."-- Albert Einstein
AngelaG Posted November 17, 2004 Posted November 17, 2004 I think it's more like 3600 reps before it becomes engrained into the "muscle memory" Tokonkai Karate-do Instructorhttp://www.karateresource.com Kata, Bunkai, Articles, Reviews, History, Uncovering the Myths, Discussion Forum
Lazy Scholar Posted November 18, 2004 Posted November 18, 2004 I think James Lee ; Bruce's assistant in Oakland said " everything works and nothing works" you scythe with it!!!!!!
street fighter Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 to answer the question from my point of veiw is that JKD is best studied for its effective concepts of fighting and also its beliefs. good is never good enough and always look for the good in others things, or in this case systems and styles, take what you can use and discard the rest, Bruse was great because he was open minded. Survivor
Drunken Monkey Posted December 17, 2004 Posted December 17, 2004 ......you don't 'discard'. to discard is wrong. post count is directly related to how much free time you have, not how intelligent you are."When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite."
Luckykboxer Posted December 17, 2004 Posted December 17, 2004 the main way the book tao of jeet kun do will help you in a street fight is if you use it to knock someone over the head and unconcious with. other then that you can use the principles in the book towards your own training to better equip yourself to deal with a real life or death situation. your ability to prevail is only going to be as good as your skills and training are though.
unknownstyle Posted September 8, 2005 Posted September 8, 2005 his theory has for all of ti to be practical in a real situation "Live life easy and peacefully, but when it is time to fight become ferocious."
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